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[Synless]

I still doubt it‘ll sell enough to be a financial success. They need to sell around 7 million (while its full price) to break even, so far they‘ve sold 2 million.

No, they didn’t sell 2 million, they have two million players. These are not the same.

 

[PeteBull]

No, they didn’t sell 2 million, they have two million players. These are not the same.

Indeed, those 2 mil players is likely less than 1m sold copies, so quite terrible for mainline entry in AC series that regulary sells 10m+ copies.

 

[Topher]

Right now, the game’s ranking at 98 and getting dunked on by AA titles like Split Fiction and Atelier Yumia and rocking a solid 2 out of 5 stars.

 

[Lethal01]

It's always been well understood that the AC franchise mixed historical fact with very unrealistic things. To deny that is either forgetful or disingenuous.

That is indeed what I said.

 

[bender]

Is this blasphemy too

 

[DJ12]

Hasn't the destruction of culture been the series MO since the very first game, not sure why people give a shit now it's japan's turn.

 

[ManaByte]

This is why the people who have been pushing it as a failure for the last two years a pivoting to UbiSoft going under now. It’s harder for anyone to prove one way or the other at this point.

 

[genesisblock]

Killing innocent people in Assassins Creed games will lead to a game over screen.
Shadows is Naoes story, Yasuke is basically a side character, dont play him if you dont want a black man to be killing asian people.

I take it you havent actually played any of the Assassins Creed games, and most certainly havent played this game so maybe just put the topic on ignore and dont spout your ignorance here.

Interesting how can spin this to player choice rather than see the contradiction right after your first statement. The fact that the Animus allows you to control Yasuke meant he too is bound by the rules in that program. And your handwaving attempt speaks more about your attitude in this side of the controversy.

 

[MMaRsu]

couldn't agree more, Ubisoft make it a bad game, Yasuke and Naoe has no blame on this.

But its literally not bad. You know whats a bad game? Gollum.

You know what this is? A better AC than previous games in the rpg series.

 

[RodriGames40]

The Woke mob celebrating 2 mILliOn pLaYeRs!! for an AC game is the saddest thing you see here

a game from a calibre franchise like AC should be doing MHW number, 8 million sold in 3 days

I wonder if these people will ever learn that "2 million players" is as dire as it gets for an IP like this, or well... The juggernaut it used to be.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Is this blasphemy too

This you mean

 

[MMaRsu]

The Woke mob celebrating 2 mILliOn pLaYeRs!! for an AC game is the saddest thing you see here

a game from a calibre franchise like AC should be doing MHW number, 8 million sold in 3 days

Why should it need to do those numbers? According to whom

 

[Soodanim]

That is indeed what I said.

My mistake - I misread. Apologies.

 

[Solarstrike]

Pathetic fucking loser troll-bait basement dwelling right wing scum bags. Their father's didn't smack enough sense into them growing up. Game is incredible.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

ALOT of assumptions there but I appreciate the analysis.

Remember the unconfirmed spider-man 2 break even number included cuts sent to Disney which won't apply to this game.

Rumor and speculation has inflated game budgets a lot over the years with not much concrete info.

E.g. the old marketing doubles development costs came from a single speculative article about GTA5.

The same Sony leak suggested that marketing budgets are about 20 to 25 million dollars. A lot to be sure but a far cry from doubling development costs.

The only assumption was average salary. Low end salary is 50k, high end is $130k.

The fact is there is 600 employees for Ubisoft Quebec. Development did start in 2018. Even if each employee only made $50k a year, that's still $180M just on salary.

 

[vodka-bull]

No, they didn’t sell 2 million, they have two million players. These are not the same.

You think more than half of these players are sharing the game?

 

[seething left]

Pathetic fucking loser troll-bait basement dwelling right wing scum bags. Their father's didn't smack enough sense into them growing up. Game is incredible.

I guess that explains your identity crisis.

 

[Solarstrike]

I guess that explains your identity crisis.

Found one. Name checks out.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

Cuz you would know that killing innocent people leads to game over otherwise.
You posit your argument that a black guy is going around killing civilians as if its part of the gameplay loop, its literally a fast way to desync.
You would know this if you had played an Assassins Creed game.
I also surmise you havent played this game because you would also know that its almost entirely Naoes story, with Yasuke being a supporting character, who doesnt even play like an Assassin.....hell he doesnt even have a hidden blade.

Im not dismissing your points, im fully rebutting them because your argument is in bad faith and doesnt represent what the game is.
Yasuke isnt going around just killing people randomly, the game actively punishes you for doing so.
You also dont HAVE to play as Yasuke for the vast vast vast majority of the game, if you have such issue with a black guy killing, then dont play the black guy.

You don't desync after killing one civilian. You can kill as many servants as you want without desync, right? Maybe civilian wasn't the right word to use, the fact is that as Yasuke, a foreigner, you kill native Japanese people.

Personally I don't care. The people who do care probably didn't give a shit about killing African Zombies in RE5. But on the other hand, the people who were up in arms about Resident Evil 5 being racist are the same people dismissing Yasuke killing Japanese people.

That's what I'm getting at. People cherry pick what controversies they fight for not because they actually have any personal moral stance, they do it because people they're ideologically opposed to are on the other side of the controversy.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

is Kotaku going to make an article?

 

[PeteBull]

Why should it need to do those numbers? According to whom

Coz its mainline entry in the series that sold upwards of 200m copies, it had huge budget, which means it needs huge revenue to make that money back, and then some.

 

[geary]

Coz its mainline entry in the series that sold upwards of 200m copies, it had huge budget, which means it needs huge revenue to make that money back, and then some.

And is on a subscription service, while MH:W was not.

 

[MarV0]

Pathetic fucking loser troll-bait basement dwelling right wing scum bags. Their father's didn't smack enough sense into them growing up. Game is incredible.

Being progressive and advocating for child assault don't really go together.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Not to be contrarian, but I am far from worshipping a country that:

Has incredibly prolific hentai scene in order to Cather to people attracted to minors because “it’s just drawing”

Has a market for girl panties and gravure swimsuit photoshoots of 12-years olds

Committed unspeakable horrors during WWII, with Japanese camps showing mortality rate far in excess of the Nazi ones

Has an economy that barely grew in the last 30 years but for some reason everyone is still working super late to please their bosses

Japan is awesome - the ancient one. The shogun, the castles, etc. Modern one is thrash.

 

[ManaByte]

And is on a subscription service, while MH:W was not.

The Xbox store version is plastered with UBISOFT+ in big bold letters.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Right now, the game’s ranking at 98 and getting dunked on by AA titles like Split Fiction and Atelier Yumia and rocking a solid 2 out of 5 stars.

But if you wanna see real brutality, check out the reviews… I thought Japanese people were polite

Looks like Ubisoft made a lot of enemies in Japan

I'm glad for Japan. They are wonderful people and have made many positive contributions to the world.

 

[ManaByte]

Has incredibly prolific hentai scene in order to Cather to people attracted to minors because “it’s just drawing”

Has a market for girl panties and gravure swimsuit photoshoots of 12-years olds

And their birthrate is collapsing to extinction levels.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

M ManaByte seeing a negative thread about AC:Shadows:

 

[Gaiff]

Not to be contrarian, but I am far from worshipping a country that:

Has incredibly prolific hentai scene in order to Cather to people attracted to minors because “it’s just drawing”

Has a market for girl panties and gravure swimsuit photoshoots of 12-years olds

Committed unspeakable horrors during WWII, with Japanese camps showing mortality rate far in excess of the Nazi ones

Has an economy that barely grew in the last 30 years but for some reason everyone is still working super late to please their bosses

Japan is awesome - the ancient one. The shogun, the castles, etc. Modern one is thrash.

Woah! I was with you until you started shitting on hentai. Leave it out of this.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Woah! I was with you until you started shitting on hentai. Leave it out of this.

 

[UnrealEck]

DEI(A) stands for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, Accessibility......it doesnt mean forced diversity or whatever.....

In practice it does.

 

[Liopleurodon]

Leonardo da Vinci according to Japan:

You don't see any Italian complaining.

 

[Rush2112]

I’ve never seen the president of a country shit on a video game on their national television. Congrats Ubosft, you’re spreading ‘awareness’ and ‘social justice.’

 

[adamsapple]

I’ve never seen the president of a country shit on a video game on their national television. Congrats Ubosft, you’re spreading ‘awareness’ and ‘social justice.’

Today in things that never happened.

 

[Esppiral]

To be honest, from what I played so far, Ubisoft has done a great job representing the Japanese culture. Yes, Yasuke might be out of place but the rest of the game has been great. I think those people giving bad reviews probably havent touched the game and are repeating the same silly arguments they hear on the internet

That is the stupid society we live on now, most of the criticism comes from people that haven't touched the game and won't do it, they just need to follow the cancel culture because it is so edgy!!!!

 

[Kotaro]

Why should it need to do those numbers? According to whom

Assassin's Creed franchise is in the same level as Monster Hunter, in fact you could make an argument that AC is a bigger franchise

 

[Kenneth Haight]

japanese devs are no better

Laughs in Kojima

 

[rabbity-thing]

I’ve never seen the president of a country shit on a video game on their national television. Congrats Ubosft, you’re spreading ‘awareness’ and ‘social justice.’

This says far more about the quality of remarks coming from their president than it does about the quality of a game.

EDIT: Apparently, the comment was in error anyway. Bruh, stop overexaggerating and sensationalizing.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Today in things that never happened.

You are arguing technicalities in a country where people refuse to have sex. Even if he was talking about the shrines - so what? Your nation is dying.

 

[Team Andromeda]

They are hypocritical assholes.
This is one of more respectful games set in Japan made by westerners.
There is even a message reminding not to climb tori gates because of respect and other stuff like that. It portrays Japan beautifully like almost o other game.

Where are their issues with rise of ronin? Oh wait. It’s made by Japanese dev… so it’s fine… right.

Spot on. I bet if this game was made by the Yakuza team no one would give a hell about fighting near a Shrine

The game is wonderful, people are missing out by not playing this

 

[ikbalCO]

Anyone who likes an Assassin’s Creed game where the main character is a girl is part of the woke mob.

Haha what? What are you talking about? These are games. Kids stuff for grown ups. If the game plays good looks good and sound good then its a good game. Who cares if you are girl or a boy? What are you, five?

Grow up

 

[Wilhelm_85]

They’re not obligated to buy it and it was clear that not much care was put into details and accuracy despite the comments of certain devs at Ubisoft.

With that said, it’s not universal hate. I have tuned into a few Japanese live streams and some people seem to enjoy it quite a bit. The Ubisoft Japan localization team were in a challenging situation, but they actually did a great job. The voice acting in particular is well done and comes across as authentic rather than a sloppy translation.

 

[MMaRsu]

Haha what? What are you talking about? These are games. Kids stuff for grown ups. If the game plays good looks good and sound good then its a good game. Who cares if you are girl or a boy? What are you, five?

Grow up

He's being sarcastic

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I want an AC Africa next, with your character being the smartest African that contributed the most to society to truly celebrate African culture . . .

Spoiler: This African

 

[Solarstrike]

Being progressive and advocating for child assault don't really go together.

That was a figure of speech man. Probably not the greatest analogy, I apologize et al seething left and anyone upset.

 

[Black_Stride]

Interesting how can spin this to player choice rather than see the contradiction right after your first statement. The fact that the Animus allows you to control Yasuke meant he too is bound by the rules in that program. And your handwaving attempt speaks more about your attitude in this side of the controversy.

ELI5 the contradiction you speak of?

 

[PeteBull]

DEI(A) stands for Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, Accessibility......it doesnt mean forced diversity or whatever......but i guess just like Woke got colonized imma guess DEI(A) has also been colonized to mean something else entirely.



Note. Yasuke is an actual historical figure he was black and was in feudal japan.
Was he a Samurai who knows who cares......was Pope Alexander VI super powered who knows who cares....did Napoleon hypnotize his enemies with ancient aliens tech who knows who cares.

This story plays out not dissimilarly to many other fish out of water stories including Japanese white Samurai stories.
The real beef seems to be Yasuke being black.

Woke mob will claim DEI is fair, normal/sane ppl know DEI means forcing diversity, and AC:S is prime example of it.
Pro tip- if ur take on DEI is similar to rainbow forum maybe consider urself leftist af and living in woke bubble, most ppl in the world have wastly different views on that.

 

[ManaByte]

Haha what? What are you talking about? These are games. Kids stuff for grown ups. If the game plays good looks good and sound good then its a good game. Who cares if you are girl or a boy? What are you, five?

Grow up

Sarcasm.

 

[PeteBull]

And is on a subscription service, while MH:W was not.

Many previous games in AC series werent either, yet sold 10m+ copies

 

[geary]

Many previous games in AC series werent either, yet sold 10m+ copies

Not on 5 days.