Lokaum D+
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and yet Ubisoft its on the brink of "bankruptcy"Many previous games in AC series werent either, yet sold 10m+ copies
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The reception of Assassin’s Creed Shadows in Japan, based on Amazon Japan sales and reviews, is brutal
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Many previous games in AC series werent either, yet sold 10m+ copies
It has been three days since AC shadows released.
smh
ikbalCO
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Sorry. Caught up with the thread rhetoric. My bad
Radical_3d
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Amir0x?
PeteBull
Member
They got tons of useless DEI hires in the company that just sucks out salaries like parasites, its no wonder they are going under, they arent non profit organisation after all, their main reason to live, as company, is to make money, if they fail at it then its only fair they go bancrupt
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
As I said maybe the term might have been colonized and im out of the loop, i dont follow any US Left/Right/Centralist/Cannibal outlets/influencers so most if not all of my views on the world are dictated by what i see and experience IRL not online.
Ive lived on every continent save Antarctica and make it a point to integrate as much as possible so i think ive got a decent grasp on peoples views.
If DEI(A) now means forced diversity which again I dont fully understand what that means (im going to assume you mean pandering) then fine whatever.
If you mean affirmative action thats a totally different story.....but again I dont know what people are arguing about when we (i guess insane people) know what DEI(A) actually is, yet other people use the term as some sort of negative?
Would AC:S still be called woke/DEI/pandering if Yasuke was replaced with Nathan Algren?
The Chairman
Member
Bro stop lying, it was proven by Japanese people that it's real, a screenshot made by a westerner with an agenda proves nothing
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
They got tons of useless DEI hires in the company that just sucks out salaries like parasites, its no wonder they are going under, they arent non profit organisation after all, their main reason to live, as company, is to make money, if they fail at it then its only fair they go bancrupt
Source of that they got a ton of useless DEI hires?
Holy shit I havent heard that name in a millennia.....got so much bad nostalgia just reading that name.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Bro stop lying, it was proven by Japanese people that it's real, a screenshot made by a westerner with an agenda proves nothing
Video title "JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER MAD ABOUT UBISOFT ?!?!?!?!"
Prime Minister "Graffiti on shrines is an insult", talks about customs. Doesn't say anything about Ubisoft or calls out the game by name in his speech.
This is what happens when you blindly follow the meta-commentary thrown by your favorite youtuber 'personality'.
Another classic The Chairman banger
The Chairman
Member
Imagine taking the word of some basement-dwelling westerner on twitter, self-proclaimed 'Japanese culture expert,' over a real Japanese person, all because he’s a youtuber lmaoVideo title "JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER MAD ABOUT UBISOFT ?!?!?!?!"
Prime Minister "Graffiti on shrines is an insult", talks about customs. Doesn't say anything about Ubisoft or calls out the game by name in his speech.
This is what happens when you blindly follow the meta-commentary thrown by your favorite youtuber 'personality'.
Another classic The Chairman banger
Lokaum D+
Member
As I said maybe the term might have been colonized and im out of the loop, i dont follow any US Left/Right/Centralist/Cannibal outlets/influencers so most if not all of my views on the world are dictated by what i see and experience IRL not online.
Ive lived on every continent save Antarctica and make it a point to integrate as much as possible so i think ive got a decent grasp on peoples views.
If DEI(A) now means forced diversity which again I dont fully understand what that means (im going to assume you mean pandering) then fine whatever.
If you mean affirmative action thats a totally different story.....but again I dont know what people are arguing about when we (i guess insane people) know what DEI(A) actually is, yet other people use the term as some sort of negative?
Would AC:S still be called woke/DEI/pandering if Yasuke was replaced with Nathan Algren?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Bro I'm not using anyone elses word, I watched the video *YOU* posted.
You should probably watch it too, clearly you haven't
Bumblebeetuna
Member
As I said maybe the term might have been colonized and im out of the loop, i dont follow any US Left/Right/Centralist/Cannibal outlets/influencers so most if not all of my views on the world are dictated by what i see and experience IRL not online.
Ive lived on every continent save Antarctica and make it a point to integrate as much as possible so i think ive got a decent grasp on peoples views.
If DEI(A) now means forced diversity which again I dont fully understand what that means (im going to assume you mean pandering) then fine whatever.
If you mean affirmative action thats a totally different story.....but again I dont know what people are arguing about when we (i guess insane people) know what DEI(A) actually is, yet other people use the term as some sort of negative?
Would AC:S still be called woke/DEI/pandering if Yasuke was replaced with Nathan Algren?
Unrelated, but
The Chairman
Member
Bro, in the first 5 seconds of the video, the Japanese youtuber literally says the prime minister is not happy about the game which completely contradicts your lies. Or are you saying Shohei Kondo is lying now?Bro I'm not using anyone elses word, I watched the video *YOU* posted.
You should probably watch it too, clearly you haven't
Lokaum D+
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol I’ve been playing the game for nearly 7 hours and haven’t played as yasuke since the prologue.
These idiots fell for the outrage manufactured by the anti woke crowd on Twitter.
These idiots fell for the outrage manufactured by the anti woke crowd on Twitter.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
That's the sad part in all this.
These people got duped out of playing an apparently good game because they fell for creators who rely on them continuing to show up to videos and blog posts angry so they can make money off of their outrage.
H From Steps
Member
Agreed completely I guess Yasuke is there for the non stealth players is my guess
the_master
Member
This went out of hand. It is a game, a work of fiction, deal with some of the creator’s choices, please.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, like I said, you're relying too much on the YouTubers commentary.
Did you actually watch the video yourself and see the translation of the prime ministers actual speech?
He doesn't say anything close to what the YouTuber is saying in his own commentary, no mention of ubisoft, no mention of the game, he just says in the generic terms that putting graffiti on the shrines is unacceptable.
It's a classic case of making a mountain out of a molehill.
Synless
Member
I think instead of making assumptions I’ll wait for the official news. However for you to assume that anything relating to players versus sales is great, you’re wrong, at least at those levels.
The Chairman
Member
Oh, got it. I’ll just trust Jeffery’s tweets over actual Japanese voices on Japanese issues from now on. Appreciate the wisdom, bro
Killer8
Member
Why are you venerating the opinion of one Japanese Youtuber's interpretation of what was said, when you can just read the transcripts of what was said yourself and form your own opinion about it?
Lots of people have agendas online no matter which country. I have no idea who this guy is or why I should respect his opinion. Youtube is filled with Westerner charlatans who peddle complete nonsense about political matters, and I can't imagine Japan is any different. I may well be watching the Japanese equivalent of Ben Shapiro here. Just a cursory glance at his Youtube thumbnails shows that his channel is filled to the brim with rage bait...
Should I have consulted these Japanese gentlemen's opinions about over-toursim before I went on holiday to Japan last year:
tl;dr, tune out the noise and go to the source.
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Sharius
Member
yeah sure, keep bring up nioh, but yasuke in nioh just a goon put in for lol, his gear set doesn't even worth to farm, compare with you put him as a main character in history of a whole country, lmao it would make japanese happy, spoiler: it's not
Strategize
Member
Nice try bro. This guy is a proven grifter where other grifters his race to deflect against any criticism, I'd sooner trust my local drug dealer over Shohei when it comes to coverage on this game.
Killer8
Member
Still doesn't change the double standards reality that a Japanese developer put him in the game, called him a samurai to boot, and there was zero issue because that was back in 2017 and people's brains hadn't completely rotted yet.
I don't understand the point about gear either. I brought up in the other thread about how you can have a gay romance with Ryōma Sakamoto in Team Ninja's other game, Rise of the Ronin, and someone said something like you are only doing it to deepen your bond to get better gear so it's not an issue.
I guess to the grifters, the blacks and the bum fun is a-ok if you get a cool sword out of it.
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The Chairman
Member
Post the transcripts then.
Oh no, a Japanese guy is complaining about a game that shits all over his country, he must be a grifter!! lmao
Sharius
Member
lmao, japanese, chinese and korean netizen are the worse of kind, even their high schooler know how to punish each other to the point of mental damage
The Chairman
Member
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
adamsapple
Any response about this other Japanese dude, or is he lying too 
Puscifer
Member
BECAUSE IT'S GORIOUS NIPPONLINGO!
I'm honestly shocked that it took 20 years for people to get pissed with Assassin's Creed
MMaRsu
Gold Member
Main character in history?
Bro it's a fictional story.
Learn to accept that not everything has to be real to be enjoyable.
You like Nioh right?
Or do you think the Yokai in Nioh are real too
The artful mincer
Member
I dunno maybe ask an AI. You can do your own knapkin maths but it's still just speculation
I think we should at least try to stick to factual available information of which there's not much.
The difference between $250 million and $350 million is huge we shouldn't just jump to the bigger number to suit our narrative.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Oh, got it. I’ll just trust Jeffery’s tweets over actual Japanese voices on Japanese issues from now on. Appreciate the wisdom, bro
Jeffreys tweet? Lmao my man you're a one track poster.
I'm asking you to watch your own videos lol.
Listen to the prime minister's words, not the YouTubers.
gamerEMdoc
Member
Not playing the game bc Ubisoft games are nothing but eternal fetch quests clearing thousands of "?" from the map, and I can't believe I'm defending them, but I don't quite get the outrage about history being changed. That's the entire AC franchise? Literally every game in the series makes up history by incorporating real people. DaVinci wasn't making hangliders for an assassin who killed the pope. George Washington didn't use an apple of eden to become king of the US either. I don't remember people losing their shit in any other game in this series about the fiction in the game not ACTUALLY happening in history.
Killer8
Member
They're literally in the X post you took issue with. Do you not know how a screenshot and highlight function works, or do you think that is the X poster's own interpretation?
Nothing in the video's translation deviates from it:
"I'd want to sit down with the Economy Ministry, Education Ministry, and Foreign Ministry to figure it out. But graffit on shrines? That's completely out of line. It's that simple. To me, it's an insult to the country - plain and simple. That's where I stand. Look, when we sent the Self-Defense Forces to Iraq, back in the day, it wasn't about forcing on anyone - not at all. But Islamic customs and traditions? We made sure our troops going there understood them. We drilled it in - learn the basics. I insisted on it."
versus
It's clear as day, to anyone with basic comprehension and who isn't trying to spin what he's saying, that the Prime Minister is talking about real-life defacement and not virtual defacement. The video translation by the Youtuber actually makes it even clearer!
Also how does it feel being on the same side as Jack Thompson boomers who think videogame acts inspire real life acts? lmao
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David Ricardo
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Wokeness/DEI is an antiwhite movement. So having a white Hero in a game set in medieval Japan would never qualify as DEI/woke. You could say it´s out of place, it´s not representative of the people at the time, it takes you out of the game, it could be considered like white supremacy or antijapanese racism, having a white guy beating the crap out of hundreds of japanese soldiers, all kind of criticisms.As I said maybe the term might have been colonized and im out of the loop, i dont follow any US Left/Right/Centralist/Cannibal outlets/influencers so most if not all of my views on the world are dictated by what i see and experience IRL not online.
Ive lived on every continent save Antarctica and make it a point to integrate as much as possible so i think ive got a decent grasp on peoples views.
If DEI(A) now means forced diversity which again I dont fully understand what that means (im going to assume you mean pandering) then fine whatever.
If you mean affirmative action thats a totally different story.....but again I dont know what people are arguing about when we (i guess insane people) know what DEI(A) actually is, yet other people use the term as some sort of negative?
Would AC:S still be called woke/DEI/pandering if Yasuke was replaced with Nathan Algren?
But in on itself, having a white main protag in a medieval japan game would never be woke or DEI
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They're literally in the X post you took issue with. Do you not know how a screenshot and highlight function works, or do you think that is the X poster's own interpretation?
Nothing in the video's translation deviates from it:
"I'd want to sit down with the Economy Ministry, Education Ministry, and Foreign Ministry to figure it out. But graffit on shrines? That's completely out of line. It's that simple. To me, it's an insult to the country - plain and simple. That's where I stand. Look, when we sent the Self-Defense Forces to Iraq, back in the day, it wasn't about forcing on anyone - not at all. But Islamic customs and traditions? We made sure our troops going there understood them. We drilled it in - learn the basics. I insisted on it."
versus
It's clear as day, to anyone with basic comprehension and who isn't trying to spin what he's saying, that the Prime Minister is talking about real-life defacement and not virtual defacement. The video translation by the Youtuber actually makes it even clearer!
Also how does it feel being on the same side as Jack Thompson boomers who think videogame acts inspire real life acts? lmao
He knows.
Note that he keeps referring the YouTuber not the actual PM's words.
The Chairman
Member
I watched it, i saw Japanese people saying that the Prime Minister is not happy about the game, now what?
The Prime Minister’s comments on real-life defacement were in direct response to concerns raised about the game. He didn’t just randomly wake up and start ranting about shrine vandalism for fun. You guys are either clueless or just trolling lmao
LordOcidax
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Always great to see how the LGTBQ+ agenda makes people love each other’s 
. The world is a better place now and especially gaming forums, everything is going according to the plan 
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. The world is a better place now and especially gaming forums, everything is going according to the plan .
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
So you agree that the title of the video is bullshit then, cause the PM himself didn't say anything negative about the game or Ubisoft.
Great, we're on the same page.
The Chairman
Member
BlitzerRadic
Member
Yo man, you posted the video. Did you watch it or not? If you did post the timestamp where JPN PM is talking about UBIOh, got it. I’ll just trust Jeffery’s tweets over actual Japanese voices on Japanese issues from now on. Appreciate the wisdom, bro
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Still don't care.
The Chairman
Member
Yo man, read my reply here. or do you want him to say the word "UBI" or it doesn't count lol
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Try again bro
I tried again and again, I still can't find the part where the PM is talking about Ubisoft. Mission failed, bro
I've been trying to tell him the same for a while now, lol. He's deliberately obtuse.
BlitzerRadic
Member
I dont care what your damn reply is. Post the timestamp where you say the JPN PM is talking about UBI.
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Killer8
Member
This is what was asked of the PM immediately before his response (using the video translation since you're so keen on using grifters as sources):
"So, Prime Minister Ishiba, I'd like to ask you: With games, social media, and all that, when people disregard other cultures or cause tourism-related trouble, what's your view on it?"
to which he responds:
"I'd want to sit down with the Economy Ministry, Education Ministry, and Foreign Ministry to figure it out. But graffiti on shrines? That's completely out of line. It's that simple. To me, it's an insult to the country - plain and simple. That's where I stand."
I'll ELI5 for you since you seem a little lacking in comprehension:
The politician asking the question lumps issues he has with the game in together with real-life issues which Japan is facing with shrine graffiti, under a broader umbrella of "cultural disregard".
The Prime Minister in his response then divides the issues, which the politician had lumped together, back apart again and addresses them separately:
1) he first indicates that in terms of cultural disregard, he'd need to discuss that with other ministries first. Anyone that follows politics should know that this is a politician's answer, deferring discussion to other people / another time. Probably because he is a boomer who doesn't know about games and social media that well ("to figure it out"), and who doesn't want to risk causing some sort of international dispute by mispeaking.
2) He then says "But graffiti on shrines?" before speaking very plainly in condemning THAT, specifically. Note the use of "but" when he introduces this part, because he's contrasting basically saying "I don't know, we'll need to figure it out" to the first part about games/social media, with the rest of his statement which is a full-throated condemnation about the shrine graffiti.
This really isn't hard.
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