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[IntentionalPun]

I am trying to do a melee build but... I don't get it. I'm doing combos sometimes, other times..no combo.. is there a rhyme or reason to it?

Literally nobody on the internet seems to get it lol

edit: also since I was struggling I googled for unique weapons and 2 of them are in The Garden? lol WTF

 

[IntentionalPun]

Also trying arquebus as secondary... and... why would anyone use these? Dual pistols is so much more powerful and wayyyy better reload speed.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Is heading to the garden a point of no return?

I forgot exactly what part it is but the game warns you before you enter. I’m pretty sure it is the garden.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I'm working my way to the garden, all the mini bosses I'm running into on the way there have three skulls. is that normal, or am I under leveled?

these battles are rough, seems like I hit a huge difficulty spike. there are a couple quests I haven't done in zone 4 yet but I doubt I'm super under leveled? I've done a ton of exploring

Also trying arquebus as secondary... and... why would anyone use these? Dual pistols is so much more powerful and wayyyy better reload speed.

I use the arquebus. I've actually been using it more and more as I get closer to the end game. I have sword and spell book on swap

I usually open up with the arquebus, and 1 shot kill most stuff. it immediately makes the fight much less lop sided when I can eliminate one guy immediately

once you start getting more points in perception, the range of the arquebus is insane. you can snipe enemies from such a distance, the ones near them can't detect you. I've gotten through many hard battles by finding a safe spot in some tower or on a mountain, then sniping every enemy in the camp

it can also do insane damage when it gets critical hits. my rifle is superb 3/3 and can crit for just shy of 4k damage

 

[CLW]

Also trying arquebus as secondary... and... why would anyone use these? Dual pistols is so much more powerful and wayyyy better reload speed.

Gunslinger

 

[Orbital2060]

I am trying to do a melee build but... I don't get it. I'm doing combos sometimes, other times..no combo.. is there a rhyme or reason to it?

Literally nobody on the internet seems to get it lol

edit: also since I was struggling I googled for unique weapons and 2 of them are in The Garden? lol WTF

Find a one hand melee you like to use, and a shield that can parry. Ive maxed out the parry skill for max stun. And guns for secondary loadout, either a rifle or dual ahooters. Ive levelled up the rares I got in emerald stalrs and shatterscarp. The disappointer is also good from early on. Points into perception for higher crit % plus range.

Ive tried a range of one handers but I really like the Lodestone mace and the aoe stun on power attack. And bring them to finishing moves as quickly as possible.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

I'm working my way to the garden, all the mini bosses I'm running into on the way there have three skulls. is that normal, or am I under leveled?

these battles are rough, seems like I hit a huge difficulty spike. there are a couple quests I haven't done in zone 4 yet but I doubt I'm super under leveled? I've done a ton of exploring

I use the arquebus. I've actually been using it more and more as I get closer to the end game. I have sword and spell book on swap

I usually open up with the arquebus, and 1 shot kill most stuff. it immediately makes the fight much less lop sided when I can eliminate one guy immediately

once you start getting more points in perception, the range of the arquebus is insane. you can snipe enemies from such a distance, the ones near them can't detect you. I've gotten through many hard battles by finding a safe spot in some tower or on a mountain, then sniping every enemy in the camp

it can also do insane damage when it gets critical hits. my rifle is superb 3/3 and can crit for just shy of 4k damage

Yeah the skulls mean you are under leveled and/or under geared. I think it’s mostly gear related. I have had quests show as 1-2 skulls and then I upgrade armor and a weapon and the skulls are gone.

The mobs and enemies in the garden are very fun but they hit very hard.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Yeah the skulls mean you are under leveled and/or under geared. I think it’s mostly gear related. I have had quests show as 1-2 skulls and then I upgrade armor and a weapon and the skulls are gone.

The mobs and enemies in the garden are very fun but they hit very hard.

I think it's almost completely gear related. In the fourth act the main quest was rated 3 skulls, I randomly went to camp and decided to do my occasional upgrade, upgraded my weapon like 2 times (could have been 3) and all the sudden there were no skulls left on the quest marker for it I noticed.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Yeah the skulls mean you are under leveled and/or under geared. I think it’s mostly gear related. I have had quests show as 1-2 skulls and then I upgrade armor and a weapon and the skulls are gone.

The mobs and enemies in the garden are very fun but they hit very hard.

I think it's almost completely gear related. In the fourth act the main quest was rated 3 skulls, I randomly went to camp and decided to do my occasional upgrade, upgraded my weapon like 2 times (could have been 3) and all the sudden there were no skulls left on the quest marker for it I noticed.

I'm confused because my weapons are superb 3/3, which is max I can get them at given next level requires Adra Ban which is pretty damn rare for me

I've done every side quest in the game so far other than some of the zone 4 ones, specifically the aqueduct and orge who kidnapped girl

I've already broken down every unique weapon I have for adra

also how the fuck did people rush through this game and have the materials needed to upgrade til end game? they must have put the game on easy right? again I've done basically very side quest, explored a ton, and have 62 hours in the game

edit: maybe because my armor is slightly under leveled? haven't found one I like enough to level up more

 

[IntentionalPun]

I use the arquebus. I've actually been using it more and more as I get closer to the end game. I have sword and spell book on swap

I usually open up with the arquebus, and 1 shot kill most stuff. it immediately makes the fight much less lop sided when I can eliminate one guy immediately

once you start getting more points in perception, the range of the arquebus is insane. you can snipe enemies from such a distance, the ones near them can't detect you. I've gotten through many hard battles by finding a safe spot in some tower or on a mountain, then sniping every enemy in the camp

it can also do insane damage when it gets critical hits. my rifle is superb 3/3 and can crit for just shy of 4k damage

Yeah I guess maybe range is longer.. thing is with dual pistols I was doing the exact same thing, right from the start of the game.. can snipe the shit out of just about anyone using dual power shots.

Anyways it's my secondary so not gonna get a lot of perception, maybe it makes more sense to use pistols if you are doing melee.

and CLW I tried using both, but... I didn't understand why I'd ever switch to arquebus.. by the time I'd switch my pistols are reloaded, and are more powerful lol

 

[IntentionalPun]

Find a one hand melee you like to use, and a shield that can parry. Ive maxed out the parry skill for max stun. And guns for secondary loadout, either a rifle or dual ahooters. Ive levelled up the rares I got in emerald stalrs and shatterscarp. The disappointer is also good from early on. Points into perception for higher crit % plus range.

Ive tried a range of one handers but I really like the Lodestone mace and the aoe stun on power attack. And bring them to finishing moves as quickly as possible.

Sorry should have been more clear, I was only asking about combos.

Only one I've found is the one where you do a power attack followed by 2 regular attacks (using a 2 handed melee BTW.)

And it ONLY works when I have the barbaric shout or whatever on, even if I'm not interrupted by anyone.

I'm definitely getting better at it, think it has a higher learning curve.. being on PC and generally good at shooters the dual pistols were just OP from the start for me (on hard.)

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I'm confused because my weapons are superb 3/3, which is max I can get them at given next level requires Adra Ban which is pretty damn rare for me

I've done every side quest in the game so far other than some of the zone 4 ones, specifically the aqueduct and orge who kidnapped girl

I've already broken down every unique weapon I have for adra

also how the fuck did people rush through this game and have the materials needed to upgrade til end game? they must have put the game on easy right? again I've done basically very side quest, explored a ton, and have 62 hours in the game

edit: maybe because my armor is slightly under leveled? haven't found one I like enough to level up more

Not sure. I'm playing on the hardest difficulty, but I pick up everything. I also havent' broken down barely anything that's golden hued, I just stash all that. I break down anything lesser though.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Yeah I guess maybe range is longer.. thing is with dual pistols I was doing the exact same thing, right from the start of the game.. can snipe the shit out of just about anyone using dual power shots.

Anyways it's my secondary so not gonna get a lot of perception, maybe it makes more sense to use pistols if you are doing melee.

and CLW I tried using both, but... I didn't understand why I'd ever switch to arquebus.. by the time I'd switch my pistols are reloaded, and are more powerful lol

range is much longer and single hit damage is much higher

you just don't get decent rifles until later in the game, but can get a very good pistol very early in the game

I love sword and spell book so much I knew I would be using them 90% of the time. sword is close range, spell book can do medium range very well, with the rifle I can do insanely long range

perception also increases critical chance which is very good

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Not sure. I'm playing on the hardest difficulty, but I pick up everything. I also havent' broken down barely anything that's golden hued, I just stash all that. I break down anything lesser though.

did you have your gear at legendary before entering the

Spoiler

lava tunnels on the way to the garden?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

range is much longer and single hit damage is much higher

you just don't get decent rifles until later in the game, but can get a very good pistol very early in the game

I love sword and spell book so much I knew I would be using them 90% of the time. sword is close range, spell book can do medium range very well, with the rifle I can do insanely long range

perception also increases critical chance which is very good

Yeah, between my accessories and some skills, my crit chance is very high now and I'm doing crazy damage with critical - but not even using ranged, using melee. In retrospect, I wish I had used a book/pistol as my alternate loadout instead of a wand and book which I never use the wand, just switch to cast more powerful spells from the book.

did you have your gear at legendary before entering the

Spoiler

lava tunnels on the way to the garden?

No, but I haven't checked to see if I could make it to legendary yet, but it's at the tier before that. I know I've picked up some of the materials to take it there, though. I'm barely into Act IV though, I've only done one or two side quests and haven't even gone into the town yet. I really rarely upgrade anything, then do as much as I can in chunks, though I opted to wait for the next tier to see and make sure I want to do it for these items.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

No, but I haven't checked to see if I could make it to legendary yet, but it's at the tier before that. I know I've picked up some of the materials to take it there, though. I'm barely into Act IV though, I've only done one or two side quests and haven't even gone into the town yet. I really rarely upgrade anything, then do as much as I can in chunks, though I opted to wait for the next tier to see and make sure I want to do it for these items.

I'm hoping the skulls aren't the result of me not having legendary weapons. if so I just have missed a ton of adra

granted I upgraded the unique fire sword you get at the start of the game, which starts off as common. so that used a ton. most efficient way would probably be wait until you get a weapon of higher quality and upgrading that

 

[Orbital2060]

Sorry should have been more clear, I was only asking about combos.

Only one I've found is the one where you do a power attack followed by 2 regular attacks (using a 2 handed melee BTW.)

And it ONLY works when I have the barbaric shout or whatever on, even if I'm not interrupted by anyone.

I'm definitely getting better at it, think it has a higher learning curve.. being on PC and generally good at shooters the dual pistols were just OP from the start for me (on hard.)

I see my bad I didnt read carefully enough

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

I'm definitely getting better at it, think it has a higher learning curve.. being on PC and generally good at shooters the dual pistols were just OP from the start for me (on hard.)

you definitely start to read enemy attacks. they give you plenty of warning to either dodge of parry. I went full dodge and am loving it. thought it would suck not having a shield, but dodge is done VERY well in this game, especially later in the game when you have basically unlimited stamina and can get increased dodge distance

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I'm hoping the skulls aren't the result of me not having legendary weapons. if so I just have missed a ton of adra

granted I upgraded the unique fire sword you get at the start of the game, which starts off as common. so that used a ton. most efficient way would probably be wait until you get a weapon of higher quality and upgrading that

Yeah, I don't know for sure, but my main quest in that area is literally whatever the first thing you have to do is. So I'm not as far as you for sure, so hard to say.

 

[CLW]

Yeah I guess maybe range is longer.. thing is with dual pistols I was doing the exact same thing, right from the start of the game.. can snipe the shit out of just about anyone using dual power shots.

Anyways it's my secondary so not gonna get a lot of perception, maybe it makes more sense to use pistols if you are doing melee.

and CLW I tried using both, but... I didn't understand why I'd ever switch to arquebus.. by the time I'd switch my pistols are reloaded, and are more powerful lol

From a pure damage perspective my arquebus (one last trick) does more damage than my pistol (caeroc pride)

Now personally I offhand with a spell book with my pistol with the quick switch ability it’s arquebus switch spell pistol switch rinse repeat

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

just had a neat little experience, Emerald Stair spoilers below:

Spoiler

I decided to go back to Emerald Stair as I missed a bounty. I did it, then went to go turn it in but realized the town was burned so couldn't enter it. I figured I broke the quest, but then realized the quest marker was showing up still, but somewhere completely elsewhere on the map.

turns out they made a makeshift city outside of the city and you can still do bounties. thought that was pretty cool.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Finally got the Starmetal item forged, chose the sword.. but it's soooo much weaker than the mace I found at the end of Act III. Should I continue to upgrade it or is it a lost cause?

Also, upstairs in the keep there is a dwarf girl complaining about the shopkeepers not having quality enough wares for her - but the conversation just ends abruptly as if I chose a bad dialogue choice, what's going on with her and is there something I'm missing to pick up a quest from her? It's not marked on the map. Makes me feel like they should have had quests of this sort that sent you back to previous areas for reasons, etc.. would be cool to have a reason to go back sometimes instead of always marching forward.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Finished the game tonight

74.3h

Wow, I'll gather my thoughts probably by tomorrow for a review, there's some cons but overall I really enjoyed it. They have the baseline for something better in a sequel or take parts of it for another game. Do not fucking throw the combat into the trash bin Obsidian... do not.

 

[Mortisfacio]

37 hours in (not sure how many of them were AFK) but finally hit the 3rd zone. After green and overgrown areas for the entirety so far, I'm actually excited to see some desert terrain.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

37 hours in (not sure how many of them were AFK) but finally hit the 3rd zone. After green and overgrown areas for the entirety so far, I'm actually excited to see some desert terrain.

It's a gorgeous area for sure, IMO.

 

[adamsapple]

So how are we feeling about possible expansions / DLC to the game?

Yay or nay?

 

[Kamina]

So is anyone actually playing with these mushroom features on?

 

[Bartski]

So how are we feeling about possible expansions / DLC to the game?

Yay or nay?

Didn't they already announce that there is one coming?

 

[Orbital2060]

So how are we feeling about possible expansions / DLC to the game?

Yay or nay?

Yay

There are still uncharted areas to map out

 

[vaibhavpisal]

So how are we feeling about possible expansions / DLC to the game?

Yay or nay?

Am enjoying the game. Still in second area after some 40 hrs.

But they said they will help with Outer Worlds 2 after finishing Avowed.

Honestly, for me OW2 takes precedence if they have to choose between the two. If we can get that without much waiting that will be great.

 

[Zeypher]

Im really enjoying the game. It scratches that rpg+bit of skyrim itch for me perfectly. Love that there are unmarked side quests and decisions that can screw you over etc. Combat is fun too so that always helps.

 

[adamsapple]

Didn't they already announce that there is one coming?

The director said she would like to but unlike Starfield etc, they didn't say that there would be more expansions before the game came out.

 

[Punished Miku]

The director said she would like to but unlike Starfield etc, they didn't say that there would be more expansions before the game came out.

I assumed there isn't anything since it wasn't part of a pre-order expansion.

 

[Roberts]

Didn't have a lot of free time so have been playing fourth area for some time now, but finally getting ready to move on to the last one. I think the third area is my favourite (purely when talking about exploration, dungeons, quests, vibes) followed by the first and fourth. If my math checks out, the second one was my least favourite.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Didn't have a lot of free time so have been playing fourth area for some time now, but finally getting ready to move on to the last one. I think the third area is my favourite (purely when talking about exploration, dungeons, quests, vibes) followed by the first and fourth. If my math checks out, the second one was my least favourite.

I'm only on the first 3, but so far I'd about line up there: 3, 1 then 2. Just a general theme and layout of the zone, I really like 3. My only complaint with 3 is I think I NEED the 4th companion in order to break some of these purple rocks for loot. Other companion abilities have an alternative on my end I can use without them, but these purple rocks don't seem to. So feeling forced to change party to maximize loot potential. Beyond that, 3rd is the best so far.

 

[Diseased Yak]

I would be 100% down for any DLC or expansions. With work going into OW2, though, perhaps we'll just see an Avowed 2 in a few years instead.

I hope not, though, I want to explore new areas/dungeons!

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Didn't have a lot of free time so have been playing fourth area for some time now, but finally getting ready to move on to the last one. I think the third area is my favourite (purely when talking about exploration, dungeons, quests, vibes) followed by the first and fourth. If my math checks out, the second one was my least favourite.

Pretty sure that's how I feel about them as well, mostly.

 

[Bartski]

The director said she would like to but unlike Starfield etc, they didn't say that there would be more expansions before the game came out.

hmm ok. I think an epilogue chapter would be perfect, showing your influence over the land according your ending summary. Some scenarios like garotte taking over could be rather difficult to pull off tho

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I would be 100% down for any DLC or expansions. With work going into OW2, though, perhaps we'll just see an Avowed 2 in a few years instead.

I hope not, though, I want to explore new areas/dungeons!

Yeah, I just really like this game. Like how it feels to play, how it looks, exploring, combat.. skill tree setup, etc.. Just really enjoyed this far more than I expected to. Great game, would absolutely play DLC, but would prefer a full blown sequel with a lot more "more" there. More areas, more intricate skill tree, more depth in upgrading and materials, more side quests and story proliferation.. One thing they really failed as far as I'm concerned is the difficulty - Path of the Damned is just not it. Occasionally I'll have a challenging encounter but on the whole, nothing like the difficulty of the same name in the Pillars games.

 

[RPS37]

Also trying arquebus as secondary... and... why would anyone use these? Dual pistols is so much more powerful and wayyyy better reload speed.

Using a unique arquebus and it’s a one or two shot kill with most enemies with my build?

I’m starting to not really enjoy shatterscarp’s art.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Finally got to the final area.

Spoiler

Really want to push through tonight, but think it's just too late and I should go to bed, too much to do tomorrow. Relatively interesting stuff at the end of Act IV, but a little dungeon heavy, could have used some breaking up between the two of them instead of back to back. Garden seems interesting, but haven't really gone beyond the first spot. I chose to burn the Keep after killing Steel Garrote, though I was 50/50 on the keep. Garrus effectively saying it seemed like a good enough idea pushed me over the edge. I think a lot of this stuff could have had even stronger foreshadowing earlier on in the acts, but not sure how that would best be presented, whether recurring npcs, or other elements.

 

[Seraphym]

Still in the 4th area, around the 35 hour mark. Trying to get all the quests etc mopped up before pushing on to the final area.

DLC, I would prefer a fully fledged sequel.

Hopefully I will be able to get a Path of the Damned run done, skipping the side hassle and going full Steel Garrote. At least before Atomfall hits...

 

[tronied]

Also trying arquebus as secondary... and... why would anyone use these? Dual pistols is so much more powerful and wayyyy better reload speed.

I picked one up in the first area and never looked back. I chose it over a pistol due to the near double damage. I've just reached the third area and am doing 1150 damage with a single hit and 2500 with a critical - not too shabby!

Saying that though, I haven't really compared it to anything else so who knows, maybe the damage I'm doing compared to others when entering the third area is rubbish! Still, I can easily overcome enemies and the ranger skill to slow down time by 75% whilst shooting makes it incredibly powerful.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Finished 2nd area. Ending was quite a shocker. Wish I had done what was needed. But whats done, its done.

I liked this area quite a lot cause of large jungles that made me feel lost. That feeling was pretty cool.

Also managed to do main mission objective using stealth without having invisibility perk. Was pretty satisfying when queen called me to join her.

Overall, am feeling choices and consequences in this game are pretty hard hitting compared to Obsidian’s previous work. Every choice am making, results are apparent within a few hours. Compared to their previous games, which were a lot more reactive and free form. But they also needed players to finish game to see effect of their choices.

Am finding this to be a bit more casualised, like BG3 and KCD2, where most side quest choices dont affect main quest. But their results are in pretty quickly. Not sure what to think of it. Will finish the game before making a conclusion.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I picked one up in the first area and never looked back. I chose it over a pistol due to the near double damage. I've just reached the third area and am doing 1150 damage with a single hit and 2500 with a critical - not too shabby!

Saying that though, I haven't really compared it to anything else so who knows, maybe the damage I'm doing compared to others when entering the third area is rubbish! Still, I can easily overcome enemies and the ranger skill to slow down time by 75% whilst shooting makes it incredibly powerful.

You can do dual pistols and fire them at the same time. You get better damage in my experience (plus multiple effects with 2 unique pistols) and much better reload speed.

I just can’t stand how slow the arquebus is lol

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Had my first crash tonight! Random!

This scene makes me think of the Never Ending Story..

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Marius won't train me. I tried everything. exhausted all convo, including asking him for survival tips in each zone
rip

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Marius won't train me. I tried everything. exhausted all convo, including asking him for survival tips in each zone
rip

He's the only one who won't train me, too! Everyone else did it very quick in relation to acquiring them.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

You can do dual pistols and fire them at the same time. You get better damage in my experience

sounds like something is wrong there, the rifle should do far more damage per hit, especially on weak points, the one last trick rifle absolutely deletes enemies.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

sounds like something is wrong there, the rifle should do far more damage per hit, especially on weak points, the one last trick rifle absolutely deletes enemies.

I feel like without comparing weapons at equal quality levels, it’s very hard to do a real comparison in this game. Upgrading a weapon dramatically changes it.

Having said that I’ve never used pistols really other than the electric one to just hit switches