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[peish]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

 

[Xdrive05]

Oh, as for 4k, yeah I really hope they don't target that for Switch 2 games. Switch 1 games? Sure. But Switch 2 should push assets and features and try for a high framerate at 1080p, maybe a little higher than that if there's room.

Kind of like how PS4 Pro could do a lot more at 1080p than 4k, even though it was sold as being the 4k PS4. It's like, yeah, no. Don't waste those cycles on that.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[SegaSnatcher]

i'll take one!

am i reading that correct? it has 12GB RAM?

Given they probably won't release new hardware in another 7+ yrs that 12GB figure makes sense.

 

[peish]

I didn't take into account the 12 GB,

But it would be a terrible upgrade with a 64 bit bus....

There’s now non binary ram. So 6gb x 2 128bit is possible and makes more sense

 

[BlackTron]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

Market share stolen by Steam Deck to increase from .03% to .05%

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

I agree handhelds/Switch 2 are even more samey, but I see N64 and GC as different like Xbox and Xbox 360. Yeah, different systems, lots of changes, but were ultimately just very iterative upgrades. GC did not attempt to do anything new or crazy, it simply played games better and got sequels. They did remove a handle from the controller, and change C buttons to a stick. If these are some of the most notable changes, well, nothing big has changed. Is that that much more huge than adding shoulder buttons to SNES? Wii, now there's a wildcard system.

Switch is likely to get a performance bump like N64 to GCN but a form/factor look bump that is like Game Boy Pocket to Color. In the end, it's probably a good thing, because 1 was already pretty much a matured, effective design wrapping everything that came before...

I agree Wii pointer should be in. More of a BC/legacy feature than upgrade though. Put it the fuck back in and re-re-re-re-re-re-rerelease RE4 dammit.

Was referring more to the changes on the console itself such as expansion ports and GBA connectivity, but upon further inspection, a lot of those were planned for the N64 as well.

Looks like in both cases, Nintendo had a lot of ideas they weren't ready to fully commit to, so they kept them separate from the main unit. And ultimately didn't take advantage of them.

 

[Radical_3d]

Man....I hope that's an 8 inch screen.

Me showing her what a 8 inch screen looks like:

Spoiler

Ok. Ok. I’ll stop now.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[Exede]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

Ahm, i don't think so. You don't buy Nintendo consoles to play 3rd party games. You buy them for Nintendos own games.

 

[Dr.D00p]

But it would be a terrible upgrade with a 64 bit bus....

..but it would be oh-so Nintendo, wouldn't it.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[MisterXDTV]

There’s now non binary ram. So 6gb x 2 128bit is possible and makes more sense

The previous NVIDIA leak clearly stated 128 bit as the bus for T239

 

[LordOcidax]

Yeah. My Steamdeck is leaps and bounds better for ergonomics than my Switch. I’ve stopped playing it handheld as a result. Just docked + Pro controller.

You can buy a grip for cheap and solve that problem.

 

[peish]

Steam deck clones will continue to get better though, so stealing market share will happen

Steam + Gamepass you get pc, xbox and ps games in one place

 

[ManaByte]

Remember when people thought it'd be a handheld PS5?

 

[hinch7]

Pretty decent specs and a larger Switch is all thats needed. 12GB GDDR5X is actually not bad as well for RAM and storage is pretty decent.

This thing isn't going to cheap, coming from Nintendo.

 

[Radical_3d]

You'd be left waiting then, because the chip is custom this time. No off-the-shelf trash, there's also no way in hell that size equals an 8nm chip... It's thinner than the Ally for gods sake.

It’s not custom. Well it is but as in a cut down version (what a surprise) of an existing one from… 1 year ago? Anyways it will surpass steam deck since this one has DLSS and the Deck is stuck with FSR.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[Robb]

Steam + Gamepass you get pc, xbox and ps games in one place

Sounds like a bigger threat to PlayStation and Xbox in that case.

 

[Stafford]

Hopefully I can just use my 8bitdo controller so I won't have to bother with the Joycons.

As for specs, when it comes to docked gaming on large screens (65inch and up) how decent will this be? On par or close to what systems?

I just want those very demanding games to not look shit on my Sony A95K.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Like PS4.2 and Xbox One.3 In term of GPU and PS5 and Series in term of CPU… A lot better than some people expected.

So Nintendo, aren't completely oblivious to the horsepower side of things good to see...then again, you look at Jedi Survivor on PS4/Xbox One, and even that still looks reasonably good considering the hardware...

 

[V1LÆM]

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[SegaSnatcher]

of course. i think it's a good amount of RAM. i just wasn't sure if i read it properly

Think about the games Nintendo was able to release on a console with only 4GBs of ram and 25GB/s of memory bandwidth... Now move to a system with 3x the ram and 4x the bandwidth, plus much better CPU Cores, a GPU with a modern architecture, possible DLSS support and super fast internal flash storage and you have yourself a proper upgrade.

Nintendo games are going to look and run amazing.

 

[clarky]

Steam deck clones will continue to get better though, so stealing market share will happen

Steam + Gamepass you get pc, xbox and ps games in one place

You sound like you just came out of the next xbox meeting with Phil.

 

[V1LÆM]

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[Xdrive05]

Now for the real question: is Nintendo going to show off the system with appropriate games? Or are they going to do the Sony PS5 Pro thing of "here's some old shit that runs faster and higher res"?

Because Nintendo could really fuck this up if they just showed TotK running at 60fps upscaled to 4k or something. They need to show stuff that couldn't run at all on Switch 1 to make the case for Switch 2.

Ideally they'll show off a new open world 3D Mario, and maybe announce the next 3D Zelda with a teaser and tech demo or something. Not just show Switch games upscaled to 4k.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Wouldn’t surprise me if Microsoft have Sea of Thieves lined up as it’s one of its launch titles

 

[LordOfChaos]

Looks like I'm going to need baby hands to play this one without third party controllers/grips as well

Anyways, remember the Switch leaks that were BS? Let's see

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

How enlightening, I feel like I know everything that needs to be known now.

• NL-AM10#&ELECTRONIC CHIP/IC/SOC GMLX30-R-A1/

And here's the other big one along with the RAM and storage: T239. Yes, this is in fact the Switch 2 SoC, with its proper Nvidia production part number. The Tegra X1 in the original Switch had a part number of ODNX02-A2, while TX1+/Mariko is ODNX10-A1. The "ODN" is from Odin, Nvidia's (and also Nintendo's) codename for the motherboard and sometimes sorta by extension the console itself (see my post about codenames). Side note, I've always thought it was "OD (Odin) NX 02," using the Switch's codename of NX, but it's actually "ODN (Odin) X02."

So what we have for T239 is the code GML and the revision number X30 (and tapeout code A1). I can't say what the significance of that revision number really is. But GML is actually very meaningful to me, because it's the board codename I've been waiting to see since the Nvidia hack in March 2022: Gimle. That name was in the leaked source files, appearing as the new equivalent to Odin, and it's taken this long for some sign of it to finally surface outside the hack. It seems that Nintendo is doing product codes differently this time, because CMB is being used where I expected to see GIMLE all this time. But here it is at last.

Some random guy on Reddit.

 

[Robb]

Ideally they'll show off a new open world 3D Mario, and maybe announce the next 3D Zelda with a teaser and tech demo or something. Not just show Switch games upscaled to 4k.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we get a teaser trailer, like with the original Switch, that shows off the system and its features as well as teases games to fuel speculation. But no real/tangible game announcements.

I imagine we’ll see snippets of the next 3D Mario without knowing what it’s called, for example.

 

[lughnasadh123]

So many examples for good ergonomics in handhelds yet we still might get this shit again.

 

[Deerock71]

That's incredibly boring. Switch Pro territory basically.

Nintendo found themselves some blue oceans other hardware manufacturers are timid to dip their toes into. Steam Deck OLED and Switch 2 are my future.

 

[Södy]

Now for the real question: is Nintendo going to show off the system with appropriate games? Or are they going to do the Sony PS5 Pro thing of "here's some old shit that runs faster and higher res"?

Because Nintendo could really fuck this up if they just showed TotK running at 60fps upscaled to 4k or something. They need to show stuff that couldn't run at all on Switch 1 to make the case for Switch 2.

Ideally they'll show off a new open world 3D Mario, and maybe announce the next 3D Zelda with a teaser and tech demo or something. Not just show Switch games upscaled to 4k.

My predicition is a new Mario Kart plus TotK DLC (with higher resolution and framerate).

 

[Trunx81]

Looks like a pro version with bigger screen (Oled?) and magnetic joycons. And a smaller budget version with slidable Joycons (you can see the old sliding mechanism in the rendering).

 

[Dr.D00p]

So many examples for good ergonomics in handhelds yet we still might get this shit again.

Nintendo approach ergonomics from the demands of the generally smaller Asian adult hand and the hands of Children, not Western adults.

 

[Cyborg]

LCD screen. Hahahah

 

[Frwrd]

It's regular desktop Ampere, just shrunk to these levels. Performance measurements should be on line with a card similar in size, like the 2050 (Ampere based).

Didn't DF mentioned that it could be considered to be more of a 3050 in some ways?

I wish/hope they use Samsung's new LPDDR5X

 

[Sooner]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

SteamDeck has new exclusive Mario, Zelda and Pokémon games?

 

[Robb]

Looks like a pro version with bigger screen (Oled?) and magnetic joycons. And a smaller budget version with slidable Joycons (you can see the old sliding mechanism in the rendering).

There probably is no second SKU. It's just a size comparison with the original Switch

It’s an exact match to the original Switch.

 

[Interfectum]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

Switch 2 will probably outsell all of the Steam Deck + clones combined within the first 6 months. The fuck are you smoking? lol

 

[damidu]

Looks to safe and iterative, just a bigger faster switch. I think steam deck clones will snatch away nintendo market share since both platforms providing similar experience now

lol all those pc handhelds combined together sell like 3-4 million at most, they are not even a drop in nintendo's bucket.

 

[Robb]

Switch 2 will probably outsell all of the Steam Deck + clones combined within the first 6 months

6 months is being very generous.

 

[Interfectum]

6 months is being very generous.

I know, I'm not in a position to look up actual values right now. Could be first month. lol

 

[clarky]

Remember when people thought it'd be a handheld PS5?

No?

 

[clarky]

Switch 2 will probably outsell all of the Steam Deck + clones combined within the first 6 months. The fuck are you smoking? lol

Within a week i'd say if they have the stock.

 

[Frwrd]

So am I correct in thinking the Switch 2 will be as powerful as a base PS4/Xbox -one?

Moar-powerful

 

[peish]

Woah im just saying steam decks will chip away some sales from nintendo not surpass sw2, because sw2 looks like keeping the experience same sw1, so besides the nintendo games, i think many gamers wanting a portable companion will now consider the steam decks clone army

 

[ADiTAR]

Wouldn’t surprise me if we get a teaser trailer, like with the original Switch, that shows off the system and its features as well as teases games to fuel speculation. But no real/tangible game announcements.

I imagine we’ll see snippets of the next 3D Mario without knowing what it’s called, for example.

Yeah, prob an Oct tease, a Jan event, a March release.

 

[Sethbacca]

Looks like Nintendo is learning the lesson and not trying to reinvent the wheel for once. May finally break the every other generational curse here.