Fess
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It's been like that for a long time. Low level to the metal optimizations aren't done by devs now unless they have an in-house engine. If new hardware can brute force and mask out the shittiness of Unreal Engine 5 then I'm all for it.
GeForce RTX 5090 is $1,999 5080 $999 5070 Ti $749 5070 $549 (Availability Starting Jan 30 for RTX 5090 and 5080)
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Puscifer
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It's a 2 slot card, we're going nuts over on r/sffpc about how these two slot cards just created new solutions
Fess
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Nice! I wish I had a reason to build a new one.
TrebleShot
Member
Is it only the ROG ones tart have dual HDMI output.
MAX PAYMENT
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What are the pros/cons of going with a founders edition?
DirtyBast8rd
Member
I want to get away from Asus but if they are the only ones with dual humidity out, they get my money. If I don't opt to buy a new SVS sub instead. Torn between two things I don't need but want.
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Soodanim
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Exactly what I've been saying recently, being in the market for a new GPU. nVidia knows that if they sell the 5070 with 16gb people will go straight for that no questions, so they keep it below that in the hope that people bump themselves up to the 5080 instead.
People talk about how it's low priced and how it's a kill shot, but I don't see how these are more than incremental changes with framegen doing more work, and the 5070 is about the same UK price as the 4070. Are we celebrating not having a £100 price increase?
And you can have framegen with Lossless Scaling for £5 right now no matter your GPU if you want 4x. Might not be perfect, but this stuff exists.
What am I missing other than the excitement of something new and people not reading the small print on slides?
TrebleShot
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The FE 4090 is quite loud under load. Are the Asus any better?
Goalus
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Makes sense as EUR took a nose dive compared to USD in recent weeks.Fun times for Europe:
GeForce RTX 5090: 2.369 €
GeForce RTX 5080: 1.190 €
GeForce RTX 5070 Ti: 889 €
GeForce RTX 5070: 654 €
DirtyBast8rd
Member
I don't hear it but I also have my case fans around 45 - 50 percent in a Corsair 5000d Airflow case. I like things cool and it's not on my desk but beside it on the floor. Might not be the best one to ask.
CuNi
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EUR is still more worth than USD.
EUR prices are with VAT included where USD is before VAT.
Goalus
Member
Yes, and that's why these prices are what I would have expected.
tronied
Member
I play on GeForce NOW and so far struggle to see why you'd want to upgrade especially if you have a current gen card. Even with the 4080 I can run Cyberpunk in Max settings at 4K comfortably. The only game I'd say this tech (multi frame gen) would be useful is with maybe MSFS, but even then the 40 series cards are quite capable. I think I'd agree if there were games really pushing the cards and making them crawl, but the days of "can it run Crysis" seem to have disappeared. Cyberpunk is the current benchmark and given those charts, we'll be trading 100fps for 200fps at the top end.
Still, no doubt many people will be happy to part with £2k for the latest and greatest to say they have it.
Still, no doubt many people will be happy to part with £2k for the latest and greatest to say they have it.
mansoor1980
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FalconPunch
Member
This will be the first time the x80 class is slower than the previous x90 class. Based on the specs, there's a less than 0% chance of the 5080 being faster than the 4090 when not using fake frames, ie mfg. Nvidia has fallen badly.
SweetTooth
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$2K for 30% uplift is cool now. 2 months ago a 45% uplift at $699 was insanity!!
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Pros
Smol - SFF compatible apparently.
Price - MSRP.
Looks - Subjective but the Founder Editions are almost always the best looking cards (so far this generation this is holding true).
Dual Slot - Will fit almost anywhere.
Cons
Noise - Any good partner will be quieter
Heat - Any good partner will be cooler.
Availability - Depending on where you are partner cards will likely be more readily available.
Output options - Partner cards can alter their outputs so some might come with more than one HDMI, the founders will always come with one.
It really is a damn good looking card though, I hope they evolve this design for the RTX60s im inevitably gonna get. (skipping this generation).
FalconPunch
Member
It would be if it was true but it's not and this thread is proof that even the "enthusiasts" have severe reading comprehension deficiencies. It's actually dlss performance which looks bad, using mfg 4x. So in reality, it's actually 1080p 60fps. Mfg generates 3 frames for every 1 real frame so take that 240fps and divide by 4.
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Cyberpunkd
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It is and always will be about purchasing power - companies know people in Europe can pay more so they charge more. Having currency swaps for fixed exchange rate has been a thing for decades now, I don't understand why people still fall for it.
Will probably skip this one. Raster performance gains look mid at best on the 5090. Not a big fan of FG. Don't like the artifacts it creates on the image. And DLSS 4 will work on the 4 series, which is great. 4090 can last me another gen and will be just fine. I did say probably….
Zathalus
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The 4090 already does DLSS performance for Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K60. Considering the performance uplift the 5090 would probably be DLSS Quality @ 4K60. The 4090 with FG boosts that to around 100fps. The 5090 with the improved MFG can boost to around 240fps. The new ML model at DLSS Quality should look really good.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Imo the 5080 is end of the line. 1000 is too much for a gpu anyway. But ok.
But 2000 for 90 card is a joke. It's the usual "someone will but it" and will be used by "works fine on my 5090" folks to excuse bad ports.
I will think about 5080 but probably not as I need new everything too
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
The 5070 seems like a very nice deal for the average PC bro, and without crazy power requirements.
Did they say anything about the size? My 4070 Super barely fits already lol.
Did they say anything about the size? My 4070 Super barely fits already lol.
mansoor1980
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what is the 5060 gonna be priced at ? 450?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Super impressive on anything lower than the 5090, for once.
Color me shocked
Color me shocked
SolidQ
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You know what, watching One video and reassessing things I'm a little bit skeptical about some of the numbers they provide given the benchmarks examples they provided. I'm specifically talking about the 5090, especially the one without the LSS for on and off. A little bit of my skeptical antenna goes up. I hope all the cards are as good as the announce but I feel like this is one of those you're going to want to wait for the reviews for. It doesn't make sense for him to be claiming the 570 as fast as the 4090 when some of the 4090 results don't make sense compared to the 5090.
All this talk about 4090 prices catering is a bit premature.
All this talk about 4090 prices catering is a bit premature.
Zathalus
Member
Depends on what you have now and your budget.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Did they just fix ugly characters in videogames? 
GoldenEye98
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So the "5070 = 4090 performance" is multi-frame gen vs not right?
Schmendrick
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Has there been a word on how the neural/rtx materials are implemented? That VRAM footprint shrink looks really interesting, but only if it doesn´t require a lot of manual effort on the developer`s side. God knows something like the 12GB 5070 would need that...bad.
yeah. That 5070 = 4090 is pure bs PR talk.
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asdasdasdbb
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If anything, based upon what NV has provided... the 5070 is slower than the 4070 Non Super in raster and maybe only barely faster in RT than the 4070 Super.
No wonder why AMD is so confused. They need to see reviews first before launching because they have no idea what to price RDNA 4. The 9070 XT might be very close to the 5070 Ti.
No wonder why AMD is so confused. They need to see reviews first before launching because they have no idea what to price RDNA 4. The 9070 XT might be very close to the 5070 Ti.
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The Janitor
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Hold up, this doesn't look impressive at all. So it's only 2x performance in games with framegen. According to this graph it looks only 25% faster in actual performance (Far Cry 6 and A Plague Tale)
Moses85
Member
currently I do not have a GPU, all the listed I bought on Black Friday.
My Budget is
But I will sell as much of my collectabels as needed to max out the current Parts.
The poster you responded to was clearly referring to Desktop. Thats why he put the $549 price there.
Nvidia made that claim about the desktop 5070 having desktop 4090 performance, though we know that's going to be via DLSS
asdasdasdbb
Member
Not just DLSS, Multi Frame Gen vs No Frame Gen.
Radical_3d
Member
Unless you're young, this is madness.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Yeah, I don't think anyone's read this at all just shouting about 5070 being a 4090.
AI will generate the same amount of frames as a 4090….
DragonNCM
Member
Looks like 5070 will be my next GPU !!!
intheinbetween
Member
Some people are already buying that messaging, and once the reviews hit the fan there will be disappointments among them
