So you're basing that on every single Xbox One sold having a copy of COD to go along with it?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
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So you're basing that on every single Xbox One sold having a copy of COD to go along with it?
shinra-bansho
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Boss Man
Member
Yeah, that bugged me too. Launch titles tend to not perform like you'd expect by just pretending it's a system with no owners. Another big factor (other than people just being more likely to buy games when they're buying a new system) is that there's not as much to choose from.
Did I see that ACIV PS4 actually outsold ACIV PS3?
Nope. Do the math, its 0.33%.
Warm Machine
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No. The X1 likely sold the brunt of its units in the first day or two. They just ran an average against the actual days it was on sale during the month. What the average can tell you is that the PS4 sold really well right away but didn't have the stock for the remainder of the time it had on the market in the month.
The take away is that people are buying both consoles very quickly and the whole race is who can supply more machines to retailers over the holidays. No significant data is going to appear until February and that is pretty early to see a trend.
The problem with the Wii U' launch is that a huge number of those consoles were returned to the store (by scalpers) the next month. Didn't the UK have a negative Wii U sales week at one point??
PhoenixDawn
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If Watch Dogs still ends up releasing for Wii U it seems like it's going to literally be the last game from a major 3rd party publisher on that console. I can't see anyone even considering to make/start development for any ports or games for the system in the future, it's that bad.
They both lost money overall selling 80 million consoles.
Granted, they looked to have changed their cost models this time around, but I don't think it's a given they'll make money again.
He's assuming the same attach ratio for COD for both consoles.
Relaxed Muscle
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Yes the curve from awful disaster level sales to just incredibly bad level sales is indeed good news for Wii U.
leatherhat
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Its surprising because 360 was so dominant over the ps3 in the US.
215k includes digital, we don't know the exact breakdown.
But The Legend of Zelda A Link Between Worlds did ~249k and didn't make it.
Just Dance 2015! Believe!
They're doing you a favor. Game is half-assed and rushed just like Most Wanted. Burnout P and Hot Pursuit are the only Criterion quality racers last gen/current Gen.
Ignoring the time of year.
MeBecomingI
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Well, the Vita is officially dead after those absolutely abysmal numbers. That is so sad. Incredible machine. Incredibly ignored. Fuck.
Shitty week has been shitty, confirmed.
Also, the complete domination by Battlefield and Call of Duty is sad as hell too. Downright makes me angry. Stuff is getting old and yet people just lap it up.
Shitty week has been shitty, confirmed.
Also, the complete domination by Battlefield and Call of Duty is sad as hell too. Downright makes me angry. Stuff is getting old and yet people just lap it up.
COD1 never came to consoles, some other game by other developer came out under that name, COD2 only was on 360 and PC, Treyarch made a completely different game for PS2 and OG Xbox. COD3 was on 360, PS2, PS3, OG Xbox, and Wii. COD4 was on 360, PS3, PC and later ported to Wii.
Titafall is not COD. Titanfall is a new franchise that will be heavily marketed towards the XB1 crowd.
World at War was the last I believe.
NoirVisage
Banned
That's called common sense. its dead, let it go peacefully.
Square2015
Member
It's a stretch but at least we may have something.
Did we ever find out if CoD performed better on PS4 compared to Xbone?
That might help us out too.
Did we ever find out if CoD performed better on PS4 compared to Xbone?
That might help us out too.
H_Prestige
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Just goes to show that the whole "gamers are hungry for next gen graphics" talk was a little bit overblown.
Well games of course.
Relaxed Muscle
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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/187605/A_theory_behind_Januarys_weak_Wii_U_sales.php
Not that many. This story estimates approx 40k. And the first 6 weeks were approx 900k:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/11/how-successful-was-the-wii-u-launch
These are NA numbers.
Yeah, if it was 24.99 with a memory card, I might pick one up.
3D Mario games have never been their best-selling series.
theprodigy
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well, I doubt PS4 attach rate is so different that it went out and did 1.5 million or something
BlazingDarkness
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Not sure what you're saying here?
If there's any game that MS would have wanted heavily marketed for their new console, it would have been COD, precisely because it's an established franchise.
Metallix87
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Y'know, if five years ago you told me that Insomniac was nothing more than a crappy outsourcing studio, I'd have never believed you, but after Fuse...
opticalmace
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Probably won't anymore.
Boss Man
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Kind of coming full circle here, but I really don't think more powerful hardware and having the PS4/XB1 kind of third party support is what Wii U is missing. It's fundamentally a machine that people buy under different circumstances. It needs better messaging and a new name (people to know that it exists), a cheaper game pad (and price), and for Nintendo to start releasing more than 5 games (the same 5, at that) a generation.
famousmortimer
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K is shadow fall.
Knack didn't break 100k (at retail...).
Ps4 was about 200k over xb1. Barely moved 100k the rest of the month after launch. Sacrificing huge NA lead for huge WW lead. Xb1 will win December in NA.
232k for wii u. It needs to find a cheap niche... I think hd remakes is the way to go - cheap to make, don't need large install base to turn profit.
Nothing is dead yet. Hyperbole explosion. This is neogaf forum dot gif file extension.
Knack didn't break 100k (at retail...).
Ps4 was about 200k over xb1. Barely moved 100k the rest of the month after launch. Sacrificing huge NA lead for huge WW lead. Xb1 will win December in NA.
232k for wii u. It needs to find a cheap niche... I think hd remakes is the way to go - cheap to make, don't need large install base to turn profit.
Nothing is dead yet. Hyperbole explosion. This is neogaf forum dot gif file extension.
My theory on ACIV is two fold:
1) ACIII, unlike those other games, runs like shit and is near unplayable on the PS3, making people not want to buy ACIV on PS3 and wait for the smoother framerate PS4 version.
2) Enough people were burned on ACIII being godawful that day 1 sales suffered considerably as most people waited a few weeks to see what the word of mouth was on the title and if it was safe to buy. By that point, might as well get it on PS4 if you wanted to play it.
Aquamarine
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They're not going to. Wii U is doing very, very poorly in the USA right now. The more it flounders, the more third-parties start to abandon it. It's quite tragic, really. I say this with a heavy heart and a scowl on my face. :-(
Relaxed Muscle
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math... not your strong suit
Not many
Even though I knew I was picking up the PS4, I got my kids Swap force on the WiiU to justify having the thing lol
We don't even know how much it did though.
Randolph Freelander
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Well, I don't see how it proves that, exactly. What we know is both systems sold out. Meaning, anybody else who wanted to buy one couldn't do it.
Now, don't get me wrong, I don't see the big deal about graphical increases, and the market might indeed be apathetic, but I wouldn't use numbers here as proof of anything.
At this point I think GAF cares more about the Vita than Sony does.
And this is why third parties aren't releasing for Wii U. Activision sold over 20 PS4 copies for every Wii U copy, and the Wii U had a huge head start. That's just pathetic.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Do the results include Black Friday sales?
plutoknight
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I probably should have said this instead. I don't know a lot about CoD (The series isn't interesting to me). I do remember World at War being on the PS2, but couldn't remember anything really prior to that. GAF delivers!
Anyway, yeah, I'd say the next two CoD's will get PS3/360 ports, but they'll be more Vicarious Visions and less Treyarch I bet...
Aquamarine
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November 3rd through November 30th, so yes.