Metallix87
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
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They've already abandoned it, more or less.
Chobel
Member
Thank you, Now I don't have to wait for cream. PS4 = 1.1 mil
BlastProcessing
Member
Might work.
Even though they would be a long, long way from home, I think they would be hot blooded enough to see the situation is urgent and play some head games on old school fans to convince them that playing Mario still feels like the first time. Of course say what you will, the average old school fan is just a dirty white boy whose heart turns to stone when they think of Nintendo these days. Nintendo needs to take those cold as ice fans and send them to the soul doctor till they say "I wanna know what love is and I don't want to live without you.
Double Vision
interesting. Thanks for the info.
Manmademan
Member
it's a given.
The 360 is profitable for microsoft. they didn't lose money on it. Far from it, in fact. It's not that profitable next to where microsoft's ACTUAL money is coming from (windows, office, enterprise) but this isn't a bad thing for them.
The Ps3 was hilariously expensive to manufacture at launch. it had something like an $800 cost to build, and Sony was eating at least $200 per unit for the first year or so, and kept losing money until launching the slim. It would have taken ridiculous, unheard of software and hardware to even break even on it- but sony didn't intend to. The PS3 was meant to be a trojan horse for Cell and Blu-ray, and unfortunately for sony neither tech took off. without those ancillary revenue streams (i.e. Blu-Ray bringing in DVD era royalties) the PS3 was never going to be a profitable venture.
This time around the Xbone is profitable out of the gate, and the PS3 is very close to that. 80 million consoles for both is well within "profitable" territory.
seems like a mistake but maybe units sold elsewhere are more profitable for sony due to FX?
Well, we'd need to know what Ghosts has sold total. Let's see, that percentage would be 3300 per every million copies sold. Actually yeah, that's terrible pretty much no matter what.
Are you basing that on weak PS4 shipments, or strong XB1 sales? Just curious.
I'm saying that basing the argument that TF will sell better on 360 based on the sales of Ghost means nothing. Not the same franchise, not the same marketing, not the same publisher. Just becaus eTF is a "duebro" shooter doesn't mean the COD crowd on the 360 will buy the game en masse.
Not really, because the PS4 had Shadow Fall to steal a lot of those shooter sales and not just BF4.
It's a totally unsupported game on the Wii U. Honestly, they shouldn't have even bothered. The number of players online has dropped down to an abysmal 300-700. It was once in the 2k or more range, but so many people have bailed. This is what you get when you treat the game and the players like ass. Well deserved, in my opinion.
Hugh Buelow
Member
Marketing is not limited to ads. PR is all about manipulating the perception of a product. Rallying the troops, you say? People see a good value out of a 1500$ meh desktop computer?
Let's not debate this in this thread, though.
Actually >1 million is for NA not US only. So I guess it's around 200K after launch?
Visualante2
Member
Stronger business case on PS4 and Xbone only weakens an already evidently inhospitable platform. I don't know about if this Project Cars game is a lock, but I don't see it releasing.
Seems Xb1 is MADE for US only. They are buckling down and ignoring everyone else.
As I predicted. Xb1 will get US
Boss Man
Member
Eh, they probably either lost or gained a very unsubstantial amount.
It probably wasn't very far from being one programmer lol. I imagine they expected it to bomb (maybe not that bad) but the risk was so low porting across from PS3/360 that they did it just in case.
So you're saying PS4 was at 1.1kish at the end of november? Huh. They really haven't been supplying much since launch, though I'm guessing microsoft is probably diverting a lot of supply to NA to get an advantage.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
So EU is getting the bulk of the production? Seems....stupid. They have a real chance to get US market and they're dropping it?. EU will be always be there....
theprodigy
Member
told you guys the CoD estimate route couldn't have been off by that much, ~50k off
fanboys to call famousmortimer an Xbox fanboy in 3..2..1...
opticalmace
Member
PS4 1.1m. Makes sense that they diverted so many units to the other territories. Only 100k in the last two weeks to NA isn't much.
I wasn't talking about price, I was talking about sales. The Wii U sales haven't kept up with the Dreamcast sales when adjusting for GDP and population.
pharmboy044
Member
According to famousmortimers blog, the PS4 sold at least 200K more than the XB1.
Edit:beaten by the man himself.
Edit:beaten by the man himself.
SCEA yes, Sony no.
Good data, thanks. Good PS4 news, but shit, I don't wanna be around the December NPD thread.
The market is most definitely shrinking massively for handhelds.
70k will never be a good number though.
CouldBeWorse
Member
I tend to agree, EU will always be PSLand, they need to get the lead on NA.
oconnomiyaki
Member
That's $1,485,000 in revenue.
Let's say that the average programmer at Treyarch gets around $100k as a salary. The sales would cover 15 programmers.
Not including testers and QA, producers, sound, and all the rest.
And that's with an absolute ceiling. It'll be less than that.
Ghosts will be the last CoD on the Wii U.
i guess they did miss black friday completely? They only have 2/3 shipments in Dec as well. Weird to focus on EU when they were buying you no matter what to give up what could be a huge lead in the US
Otakumegane
Member
Could someone look into how ALBW has done compared to other handheld Zeldas?
opticalmace
Member
Something like 430k, I don't recall exactly.. quite a few pages back.
Metallix87
Member
This is an NPD thread, and he was talking about the Vita TV coming over, so I would assume he meant SCEA. Sony itself, though, isn't much better in this regard.
Seriously doubt this, the shipment our store received this month between consoles is heavily lopsided in favor of PS4.
Chobel
Member
Yes!
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Someone should graph out the function of the attach rate from the ps3 vs the ps4 and see what the happy medium range would b
X over y and that kinda shit
X over y and that kinda shit
creamsugar
Member
AC
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%
NSF
1 - 16.71%
4 - 48.42%
360 - 17.77%
3 - 17.11%
NFL
1 - 40.12%
4 - 59.88%
2K14
1 - 34.84%
4 - 65.16%
FIFA 14
1 - 35.43%
4 - 64.57%
NBA 14
1 - 43.40%
4 - 56.60%
1 - 30.95%
4 - 69.05%
NSF
1 - 16.71%
4 - 48.42%
360 - 17.77%
3 - 17.11%
NFL
1 - 40.12%
4 - 59.88%
2K14
1 - 34.84%
4 - 65.16%
FIFA 14
1 - 35.43%
4 - 64.57%
NBA 14
1 - 43.40%
4 - 56.60%
An unconfirmed 400k-ish.
bishopcruz
Member
How to spruce up his resume.
But it goes to show that losing the wrong third party game can be KILLER. Look at what happened to both Nintendo and Sega in Japan after FFVII. It was a massacre at that point. (Sega didn't lose it, mind, but you get the idea.) Sony for whatever reason lost MH to Capcom, and that just killed them. It was really only important in Japan, but the effects can be felt world wide. And yeah, SCEA are just awful with the thing. They at least tried last year. Jesus it's bad.
The only bright spot is that they aren't losing money on each system when it comes to manufacturing, and apparently software sales are pretty good, especially digitally. It'll be a handheld version of the Saturn, and break my heart just as badly.
outunderthestars
Banned
Of that is the case, where are the first party games in development? Outside of quick ports of older indie games the platform seems abandoned.
opticalmace
Member
Daaaaaamn.
Maybe it doesn't matter to them? Realistically Sony only has to keep it close to blow them out globally but it still seems odd because of what it means for future gens IMO.
I did take up the bet with someone.
And I'm still sticking with it no matter how "horrible" the situation may seem.
not backing down now, I'll be there til it's bitter end.
He's the reason the PS4 and Xbox One don't have bullshit DRM.