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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Aquamarine
Member
GAF was spot on this month. That's great. 
424K < PS3 < 425K
1137K < PS4 < 1138K
424K < PS3 < 425K
1137K < PS4 < 1138K
EGOMON
Member
PS4 sold around 2000 unit in Dubai only and demand is still growing:
http://gulfnews.com/business/techno...-playstation-4-sales-exceeds-supply-1.1266669
thread worthy?
http://gulfnews.com/business/techno...-playstation-4-sales-exceeds-supply-1.1266669
thread worthy?
Unknown Soldier
Member
There's a variety of titles in the Top 10, even though many are sequels. The problem isn't with gaming, I'm afraid.
Father_Brain
Banned
I'm pretty sure that's just based on something Tretton said about overall Vita software sales at E3, not any insider info about Tearaway specifically. While that figure certainly sounds impressive, it means little without more context: is it based on unit sales or revenue? Does it include PSN-only titles, or PSN+ downloads?
I haven't seen any retail Vita publisher offer a digital
hysical sales ratio of anywhere near 1.5:1, or even a third of that, so at the very least, I'd be pretty doubtful that it only accounts for retail titles.I hope no one is still surprised as to why WiiU is getting no more third party support.
Would that be the biggest console launch for the country?
Amalgamating the totals across platforms doesn't help either.
Nailed it. Didn't like Assassin Creed 3 so I'll skip IV. Got GTA V, was OK, sold it. Madden and FIFA are always good but are just yearly revisions and no real reason to purchase (I still play 12' of both and that's cool with me). Not into shooters (Bought Shadowfall and have logged about 5 hours). Infinity, Just Dance and Skylanders just aren't targeted to me.
The 1138K?
So PS4, with being out a week earlier, only outsold XB1 in the US by ~228K systems? Gonna be an interesting gen in the US. Can't wait for Dec NPD.
Hard to sell consoles if you don't have them on shelves.
It's a sad list, but GTAV is certainly deserving and pretty damn great.
Yes, if those 2K pushed PS4 over 3M
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Not this year they shouldn't. Tie in America for the first 6 months and dominate the world within that same time period.
If they make Xbox a USA only brand, then that's bad for MS.
Just keep in mind that it's a combined formats list. We'd be seeing a lot more variation with individual format.
I think they sold more than that.
http://gulfnews.com/business/techno...-playstation-4-sales-exceeds-supply-1.1266669
Unless I am reading this wrong?
Can't sell more than that when you're launching in over 32 countries vs Microsoft's 13. The PS4 Asia launch is happening this week as well.
EGOMON
Member
Yes, mind you Dubai is a city in a country called United Arab Emirates (UAE) so thats pretty huge for one city, PS4 is also launched in KSA, Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman & Qatar so the number for Arabian Gulf countries in totall should be even bigger i can't even guess it
MoogleWizard
Member
What the shit is this? That is not my PSN profile. I don't live in the US. And I own exactly one of those games.
Try Year Walk or The Room for iOS. Both games are much more well done and innovative than anything Nintendo or Sony have crapped out this year on handheld.
3DS is right now looking at a maximum 25 million units sold in the US, unless a miracle happens. I say this because it is performing a little better than PSP, which reached only 20 million.
Total after 33 months:
GBA: ~20 million
DS: ~12.2 million
3DS: ~10.4 million
PSP: ~9.4 million
Sales in the past 12 months (at month 33):
GBA: ~7.9 million
DS: ~6.6 million
3DS: ~4 million
PSP: ~3.7 million
And the Vita, 1/10th of that: 2.5 million tops. It has sold 1.6 million, but this year (missing December) it has sod only ~350k. It'll struggle to sell 300k in all of 2014.
Random stat: PS4 first 16 days (1138k) ~= first 7 months of Wii U (~1145k)
EGOMON
Member
I think he meant they had around 5000 pre-order and could only sell 2000 because of limited supply
EGOMON
Member
Thats not why its big news of course it won't push PS4 over 3M but for one city in Middle East to sell over 2000 unit is no small feat given the low population here
Yeah I think Sony really dropped the ball on that one. They should have sold like 5 million units. I wonder how many are just sitting on shelves collecting dust. Perhaps they should slash the price.
Oh ok it was pretty confusing for me haha.
Cute. The Target by my house has had PS4s for the past week. Flying off shelves!
andromeduck
Member
location?
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
With that anecdotal evidence I'm surprised you haven't taken your case all the way to the supreme court.
Ac4 is infinitely better than 3. I'll go as far and say it's the best game in the series.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I think the next Battlefield has a small shot at outselling the next COD despite the current bug issues. A lot has to take place for that to happen though.
SwiftDeath
Member
Xbox is pretty much a USA only brand at this point
Only real ingrounds MS has left are Australia and Brazil
They will win Brazil, no idea about Australia
A bit. But it's Dubai. Dubai is pretty rich.
Haeralis The BRave
Banned
I'm honestly very disappointed that we didn't get many hardware numbers. Every other month the NPD has hardware sells for every console, except the one where I actually want to know them...
When you put it that way it doesn't sound like a lot. When you say "Sony outsold MS by 25%" it sounds better. 228k difference sounds like chump change until you realize we're only talking about 909k total systems on the other side.
Adorable. The dumpster by my house has had XBOs for the past week.
You have to accept my uncorroborated anecdotal evidence as fact.
Target's around the country seem to have sporadic supply issues with units. All the ones in Pittsburgh are stocked full of XBOs but have no PS4s in sight.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
While it likely wouldn't have made much of a difference, I saw very few stores stocking the game or even acknowledging it existed. I understand the former, but why wouldn't they even put a Wii U logo and say "please order online" or something? It's kind of weird to do any work on throw it under a bus in stores.
Abinash117
Member
I wonder what the nvidia shield's and ouya's numbers are. Also I wonder which games sold more on console vs pc or visa versa.
SwiftDeath
Member
Hard to get retail space, favor when you're not selling a lot of software as that's where retailers make money on consoles
Only way to sell software is to move hardware
It's a real catch 22 scenario. Nintendo really needed 3rd party support this gen and they honestly failed to achieve anything even remotely near the support required
Shield and Ouya may be the only hardware that sold less than the Vita
I think it is pretty clear that it is much easier to get an Xbone than a PS4. I'm not sure why anyone would debate that if they visit big box stores or Gamestops at all.
That dude must live near some Target at the corner of Bumfuck and Hicksville, because I live in a metro area with >1 million people and have never seen a PS4 in the wild. Targets, Walmarts, Gamestops, Best Buys, Bupkis.
Seen plenty of Xbones, HOWEVER, stock is clearly turning over very quickly when stores do get stock. The insider dude from earlier in the thread who asserted that the Xbone is going to have a better December is probably 100% accurate just based on what I've seen.
MoogleWizard
Member
http://psnprofiles.com/smokydave
0 games played. Not even Tearaway. Busted.
http://psnprofiles.com/salex
0 games played.
http://psnprofiles.com/Jcm
14 games played. 1 completed.
http://psnprofiles.com/CuRb
4 games played. In five years.
I love it too. I'm also sure all those profiles belong to the posters with the same username here. Because every user name exists once on the internet.
Fucking LOL.
I have compiled the YOY and Gen over Gen numbers, as best I'm able to with NPD's secrecy. Some thoughts:
- The console numbers are really, really good. Best news we've had at NPD in a while.
- The Nintendo numbers are really, really bad, and are really going to hurt their attempt to return to profitability.
- The handheld market is still undergoing massive contraction.
- Au revoir PSP.
Code:
Year Over Year
2013 2012 % Change
XB1 909
360 647 1260 -48.65%
PS4 1138
PS3 424 760 -44.21%
WIU 220 425 -48.24%
WII 70 420 -83.33%
3DS 770 540 42.59%
NDS 370
PSV 72 220 -67.05%
PSP 0 0
Family
MSFT 1556 1260 23.49%
SONY 1634 980 66.79%
NINT 1060 1755 -39.60%
HAND 842 1130 -25.44%
CONSOLE 3408 2865 18.95%
Gen over Gen
Console 2013 2006 % Change
360 511
PS2 664
WII 476
PS3 197
TOTAL 3408 1,848 84.42%
Handheld 2013 2007 % Change
NDS 1530
PSP 567
GBA
Total 842.5 2097 -59.85%SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm neither? It's not the Wii part of the name that's hurting it, it's the "U"
If they had done Super Wii or Wii 2 and marketed it correctly it could've turned out better for it
Honestly though it's marketing and the gamepad approach
Too expensive and too gimmicky without any significantly compelling game use cases for it
Wow at the loss of marketshare Nintendo is facing just from last year even and dedicated handhelds are on the way out it would seem
I think we all know the problem was they couldn't make 5 million units (if they could they'd definitely have sold them).
Sony needs to walk a fine line between getting enough stock to US to remain consistent with MS (who seem to be pushing by far the majority of their stock to US only) and keeping enough stock in Europe to maintain their brand image.
At this point Sony is pretty much guaranteed global lead assuming they can match/exceed MS for console production going forward but US might well swing back and forth a bit as Sony is covering far more countries and trying to get non US countries more stock than MS seems to be.
On the flip side no one expects MS to lead outside US and it's clear their main concern is remaining viable there - UK aside I suspect all other regions are currently way down priority list for MS in terms of stock supply and focus. Results haven't been too bad for MS in that regard - while PS4 outsold the XB1 it was fairly close and at this point it looks like MS should be able to keep XB1 relevant in that market relatively easily.
The real fun starts when both are in stock most of the time and we see how many units per week they baseline to per region - I doubt we'll see the real patterns until well into 2014.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I guess the specs.
Nintendo knew they were in trouble, the gamepad was the desperate attempt to gain back the casual games that abandoned them thanks to their phones and tablets. It's also why they were so desperate to cater to third parties this time around because they had to know the audience that carried the Wii to its success early on wasn't going to all come back for another rodeo so they had to try to make inroads with the millions of console gamers who never bothered with the Wii
The Wii brand was dead not because of incompetence, its just that the people who enjoyed their Wii moved onto cheaper and better games that were more convenient to play.
akidnamededdy
Banned
I disagree regarding the gamepad. Zombi U is super great, as is Nintendo Land, and off-TV play is awesome. The thing's got some real potential--the fact that both MS and Sony are trying to implement similar features with Smartglass and Vita should be proof enough of that. It does need more of a price drop, though.
Completely agree on the marketing issues. I knew it was gonna be trouble when the name was announced, but I never expected it to do this poorly.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
You compared MM to Rare, in the context that MM has several critical successes (so does Rare) a few modest commercial successes (so does Rare), and valuable ip that have been given life outside of the original developer (so does Rare).
Little Big Planet 2 and Tearaway bombing didn't suddenly make MM useless, did it?
I covered up nothing. Rare's critically acclaimed games bombed, their mediocre fps and their decent motion games sold well. Kinect Sports 3 is probably going to sell well, KI3 is probably selling well. They are far from useless, even if they don't have the same autonomy to do whatever they please any longer (which is overstated anyway, as Nintendo forced the DK and Star Fox ips on them, the latter to the detriment of Dinosaur Planet).
SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm there are some interesting examples of the gamepad being used in games but I suppose I meant a system selling use case for it. Gamepad is a very hard thing to market and sell the public on so it really needed something like Wii Sports where it's obvious to all why its compelling.
But yes Marketing is most of the problem but it's a bit late now. 3rd party support was needed early on and it seems to have evaporated
Out of curiosity what is KI3?