I agree the word "tradional" doesn't help too much either. You could argue that PS2 wasn't tradional by being a DVD player, or that Xbox One wasn't tradional by coming with Kinect.
"Burst performance" keep exposing yourself. Nobody designs chips for "burst performance" and the A17pro is only throttled due to balance between power, heat and cooling. It can run sustained with adequate cooling. Like I said, completely delusional. The irony is the switch will face the same exact constraints as a phone or any other mobile device. Which is managing the balance between power, heat and cooling. Even docked, the chip needs to keep power and heat in mind and will be clocked conservatively to ensure it doesn't exceed the capabilities of the cooling setup. You literally have no idea what you're talking about making up stuff with tales from your ass.
Wha? It could have better RT capabilities than a ps5 pro lol. It's nividia rt vs amd.
You can’t be serious? The operating just an elongated controller. Obviously ergonomics will be better because they don’t have to worry about you taking it out and about like a true handheld.
Why? I'm not sure if it applies to Nvidia,but can't the RT core be used outside of Ray tracing? I remember hearing the RT core can be used for AI pathfinding.
Makes sense to me!
Do not worry, you will be proven wrong soon enough. If you can't understand basics such as those, then there is no point wasting time sharing more information. I'm "hacked Nvidia and manufacturing data" levels of confident, which you assuredly aren't aware of but I have shared in this thread as much as I could and the situation deserved it.
That's interesting for sure but Nintendo can make a game like TOTK running on a first Switch. I think 8 CPU cores is enough for them to do anything.
I think 4 TF in docked mode is technically possible if Nintendo pushes the TDP and T239 is on TSMC N5/N4. But what people are missing is that this won't get you Series S performance. With Ampere Nvidia doubled up on the number of FP32 units per SM, but left everything else mostly unchanged. So the 3080 is rated for almost 30 TF compared with the 13.45 TF of the 2080 Ti. But despite the 3080 having double the FLOPS, it is only up to around 40% faster.Lol, calm down soldier… Series S in docked mode is totally possible with the leaked specs. Also i invite to you to read since page 1, this was discussed before
This would, actually, be a small generational leap. For GPU alone, that represents only a 3.3x-4.5x performance increase and that's too little, even PS4->PS5, which is considered a very small gap in performance compared to previous generations is 5.7x improvement.
The Switch 1 is around 0.160 TF in handheld and 0.350 TF in docked mode, Switch 2 with the rumored specs is at minimum 3 TF (9-10x) docked, that’s the biggest jump since PS3 to PS4 or bigger.
It's around 10x increase for GPU, which is a normal power increase before this gen
10x is not a small generational leap at all.
Indeed, before this gen ten times plus used to be commonplace but this one we had rather disappointing increases to be frank. Moore Law is hitting chips hard.
I'm not saying it's small, I'm saying putting Switch 2 at XB1-PS4 level max (3.3x-4.5x GPU power increase) is too small.
Yes, but That's something that started hitting after Ampere, so Switch 2 shouldn't be effected by dimishing return that much, it will be something Switch 3 suffer from tho.
PS4 is around 1.84 TF, Switch 2 is above 3 TF
I'm responding to F FalconPunch that said that Switch 2 should be at PS4/XB1 performance max. I think that the actual GPU raw performance should go around 8x-10x, then next console it will be hit by diminishing return as PS5 and XSX.
The sad reality in relation to the core gamers, who will be upset no matter what Nintendo produce, while everyone else just gets on with enjoying the console, and having fun with it's games.
He thinks is not going to reach Series S performance, but is easily above PS4, even in handheld mode.
I agree with him that it would probably not reach XSS levels without DLSS because not everything is RAW GPU power, but I don't think it will be so low in performance, specially when it's gonna be a modern console architecture (high speed SSD, direct GPU access to storage, DLSS, etc).
Nah, nothing is going to beat trying to figure out the location of a tree seen in a reflection of a crazy batshit looking device.
iPad is a plain ass rectangle. Why is that impressive? Why is this even a comparison?It looks like a toy from the late 2K10... Compared to the last gen of iPad, it's fucking disappointing.
Well, it's a console, of course it looks like a toy... It IS a toyIt looks like a toy from the late 2K10... Compared to the last gen of iPad, it's fucking disappointing. And the last iPad cost less than 400$ and has no issue with controlers...
The memory bandwidth is apparently just 102gb/s which will choke the GPU as the resolution increases. There’s more than TFs to a GPU and the sooner some people learn this, the better. I keep referencing the Z1 Extreme because it’s a good lesson that tech illiterates should learn from. That GPU has 8tfs due to RDNA3 dual issue yet delivers half the performance of the Xbox series S which has 4tf RDNA2. TFs mostly don’t mean shit and are used as a metric of something by people who know nothing about GPUs.
It looks like a toy from the late 2K10... Compared to the last gen of iPad, it's fucking disappointing. And the last iPad cost less than 400$ and has no issue with controlers...
It looks like a toy from the late 2K10... Compared to the last gen of iPad, it's fucking disappointing. And the last iPad cost less than 400$ and has no issue with controlers...
Depends on clock speeds but TFs are like bits, it's one part of the full picture. Doesn't tell us what all it will be capable of pulling off, but considering what Nintendo has done with the Switch's hardware, I'm sure it'll look great.
Iirc, the bandwidth is in part compensated by the amazingly short latency, which won't put it at XSS level but will close the gap more.
It's 120 GB/s, LPDDR5X 7500mt/s. So much for tech illiterates, but you didn't even get that one right.
Yes but the II also was to represent the number 2 for switch 2
who are those expecting PS5 performance, everyone i see only people expects somewhere better than PS4 Pro+ in docked with DLSS added.
If Nintendo will go for 1080p maximum (even after DLSS) then it will be comparable. 1080p -> 4K performance impact is huge. This will be very smart for them - PS4 Pro levels of performance at 1080p with DLSS will be incredible.
True but I personally think that because these look so “boring” it makes it a lot more credible. I imagine a fake leak would attempt to use some other gimmicky rumor to try to gain credibility, like having a dual screen etc.
1440p is the sweet spot. 1080p -1440p upscaled to 4K will be fine on docked. i think 720 rendered to 900p in handheld should be best and 1080p in VR is great, i hope for 90Hz and HDR on handheld mode.
See post #68
Looks like someone 3D printed the reverse engineered Switch 2 prototype model to get a better idea of the look and scale:
The dock just lets you cable it to your TV. The machine is a complete autonomous unit in handheld, mobile form. Its a handheld that can dock to the TV while its used as a console, there are HUGE and obvious glaring differences that make it clear its a handheld.... without the dock adapter it cant be used as a console, the machine is half screen which is NOT in use when adapted to the TV, the power of the system on release was inferior to CONSOLES that came out half a decade earlier- you can USE it as a console but it isnt really- and thats WHY people excuse its weaknesses. I own and play a switch OLED- the reason the switch OLED was the upgrade path Nintendo chose instead of a switch PRO or something to boost the experience on a TV- is because its a handheld.
Quoting myself from a prior thread. Nintendo themselves refers to the Switch as a home console. Whether you personally agree with that or not is irrelevant.
