The Verge: PS5 owners really want to play Xbox games, as Microsoft tops Sony’s preorder charts
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DeltaPolarBear
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Err... If you don't understand WHY, then you might have no idea how console wars work.
Consoles are closed gardens, so if you release a game on a console, the maximum amount of sales is capped by how many people actually own your console. In theory if you make a must-have 1st party game like BotW, you might convince people to buy your console for the game, but that is rare.
PlayStation has a bigger "platform" than Xbox, as in "there is more people who own a PlayStation". This directly translates to more people would could potentially buy a game that is launched.
And with Xbox known to be going third party, people have already jumped ship knowing support for Xbox Series is not long for the world. So overall people wouldn't buy the Xbox version of the same game compared to the MUCH larger pull of customers in PlayStation. Thus. if you release an Xbox game on PlayStation it would sell better than on Xbox.
"But Microsoft told us that Console Sales don't matter!"
Well Microsoft lied. Like they always did. Get used to living in reality.
RetroGamingUK
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Indeed
Microsoft also know that there’s no going back from this.
Going third party not only weakens their own Xbox platform, it strengthens the PlayStation platform.
cash_longfellow
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I’ll mess with Flight Simulator when that drops, and Halo, but everything else is meh to me.
UltimaKilo
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The future of gaming is going to really suck for fanboy kids, of which GAF has a lot of.
Woopah
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Aren't these charts revenue-based? We don't know if the $99 versions are the most popular
They also have Lost Souls Aside coming, Whether something is in-house or not doesn't really matter.
Astray
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They are delivering years of past and present catalogue after acquiring 2 massive publishers and god knows how many studios.. This isn't a surprising result in the least.
Playstation has consistently thrived on giving its third party partners the best platform to grow. This is business as usual for them.
Playstation has consistently thrived on giving its third party partners the best platform to grow. This is business as usual for them.
Zacfoldor
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Much to the contrary, it will be our finest hour.
GHG
Gold Member
The ship has sailed on Starfield. If they hoped for it to do well on any other platforms then it would have needed to have been released day one in order to dupe playstation/switch 2 purchasers in the same way that they did with people on Steam.
Doom is a day one multiplatform release so I'm not sure where you're going with that one.
RetroGamingUK
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Sony and Nintendo’s 30 years rivalry will continue.
TheDarkPhantom
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PS5 owners want to play high quality games, period. We actually buy games and don't care where they came from, mystery solved. Indy is a day 1 for me, Forza at some point, Gears Collection would be a day 1, HALO is a maybe, don't think there is anything else really, Starfield possibly assuming it's been patched to high heaven and made into the game it should have been at launch.
Edit: and DOOM was never an Xbox franchise lol plus it's coming day and date on PS5, that's obviously a day 1 too
Edit: and DOOM was never an Xbox franchise lol plus it's coming day and date on PS5, that's obviously a day 1 too
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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I'm very specifically talking about things their own studios are developing, of course it matters to the context.
Punished Miku
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phant0m
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The slander of butt stuff is uncalled for here
Pipoqueiro
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want flight simulator, already have on pc but preferrer on consoles
StereoVsn
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This is kind of sad but true. I can’t think of a single game from Sony that I am looking forward to.Sure, I can see that. Nothing developed in-house to look forward to at the moment on my PS5.
I have very low expectations for Wolverine, mediocre expectations for Ghost 2, no expectations for anything Naughty Dog makes and so on. Even for Forza Horizon 6 I am ambivalent because while 5 overall was good, it was more of the same and I liked 4 better.
PS5 is really a BC box at this point for me as well as for games kids want to play. 3rd party games I get on PC in general. Well, except for Sports or Fighting games.
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SweetTooth
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Keep them coming.
Playstation gamers singlehandedly saving the industry
Playstation gamers singlehandedly saving the industry
Horseganador
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Well, that's why Xbox is porting its first games to PS5 as quickly as possible and selling what they don't make on their own console. Doom will also work well.
Topher
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Really is that simple. Most folks don't give a crap about most of the things we make a big deal about. To them, this is just another game that was on Xbox first and now it is on PlayStation.
Sooner
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PlayStation games wouldn't sell on Xbox, because they are videogames being sold on Xbox.
Nonehxc
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Never would have thought I would cross from my bingo card 'Tom Warring shilling for PS sales'
PS5 owners really want to play Xbox games, as Microsoft tops Sony’s preorder charts
The Xbox everywhere strategy is doing well.www.theverge.com
BTW, he's gone off the heavy end lately, guess terminating the Ambassadors meant there's much more to chomp between far fewer people.
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ShaiKhulud1989
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That's one way to spin it.
The other being: Xbox games flopped so hard on Xbox that they are in dire need of PS5 userbase to make the released games viable. Especially Indy.
The other being: Xbox games flopped so hard on Xbox that they are in dire need of PS5 userbase to make the released games viable. Especially Indy.
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Bumblebeetuna
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Sure, I can see that. Nothing developed in-house to look forward to at the moment on my PS5.
Yep. Looking forward to Returnal 2 and Intergalactic. Outside of that, Sony is making fuck all.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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If they really wanted to play them, they would've bought an Xbox by now.
I am so glad I don't give these outlets clicks. Most of them are owned by the same company anyway, they get their marching orders from up high.
So convenient of you guys to shift to "in-house" after your $3 trillion megacorp purchased two of the biggest 3P publishers back-to-back, now just signing games that were already being made with the MS logo at the end.
Imagine seeing the Xbox console basically die in front of you, MS scrambling to find ways to resuscitate it to relevancy, needing other companies' systems to survive in the games industry....and you're gloating about $80 billion worth of purchased content as "in-house". Running away from the brand's bigger problems.
Couldn't be me
I am so glad I don't give these outlets clicks. Most of them are owned by the same company anyway, they get their marching orders from up high.
Sure, I can see that. Nothing developed in-house to look forward to at the moment on my PS5.
So convenient of you guys to shift to "in-house" after your $3 trillion megacorp purchased two of the biggest 3P publishers back-to-back, now just signing games that were already being made with the MS logo at the end.
Imagine seeing the Xbox console basically die in front of you, MS scrambling to find ways to resuscitate it to relevancy, needing other companies' systems to survive in the games industry....and you're gloating about $80 billion worth of purchased content as "in-house". Running away from the brand's bigger problems.
Couldn't be me
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Woopah
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For that context yes, but not in terms of the original question of what SIE has slated for the year.
RetroGamingUK
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These games aren’t console sellers.
Doesn’t mean they won’t do well on PlayStation.
DeltaPolarBear
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The issue here is that the smaller ecosystem means there isn't enough potential new customers to justify the release.
Just like how in a sad way, there is no recent support for PSVR2 because there isn't enough people owning the peripheral. I wish it isn't so but them's the breaks.
There is no magical way for games to sell well on Xbox because Xbox had done everything to kill game sales and even said owning the console isn't necessary. And the lack of console owners is directly translated to a lack of customers who could buy a game.
Physiognomonics
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Or ex-Xbox players who bought a PS5 just want to play their games there. The games I want the most are Banjo & Kazooie and Halo 1.
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SomeNorseGuy
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Gamers enjoy access to more games. shockedpikachu.jpg
As you can see over the past few weeks, it absolutely matters now.
And now retroactively Ryse Son of Rome, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break no longer count.
For reasons.
I am curious why some folks are being ultra specific now tho.
In-house has been doing alot of heavy lifting lately.
mckmas8808
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It's not that the console warring is disingenuous. It's never been a big deal at all! I think some people on GAF just don't understand what most gamers understand. There's a reason most gamers aren't flocking to the Microsoft ecosystem. And MS execs and some of the worse console warriors don't seem to understand what those reasons are.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The metaphor, yes. The studios, no. Hence the comment
We're also reading that Intergalactic is likely missing 2026, kinda adds to the point. I would like to play a ND game on this gen if possible.
Mibu no ookami
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Imagine waiting until after MHW, Assassin's Creed Shadows, and MLB The Show all release before writing this article.
There are no big game releases between now and when Microsoft's games release so of course they'll lead. All the bigger games coming out come out after these and pre-orders will raise as we get closer to their dates.
That's not even to suggest that these games aren't performing well in pre-orders, but just that this is a silly article.
Case in point. Doom is going to outsell all of those games, why is it so low? Because it doesn't come out until May.
There are no big game releases between now and when Microsoft's games release so of course they'll lead. All the bigger games coming out come out after these and pre-orders will raise as we get closer to their dates.
That's not even to suggest that these games aren't performing well in pre-orders, but just that this is a silly article.
Case in point. Doom is going to outsell all of those games, why is it so low? Because it doesn't come out until May.
Klayzer
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Shocking, isn't it.
Bumblebeetuna
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The metaphor, yes. The studios, no. Hence the comment
We're also reading that Intergalactic is likely missing 2026, kinda adds to the point. I would like to play a ND game on this gen if possible.
James Sawyer Ford
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False.
Indiana Jones (acquired by Bethesda) and Forza Horizon are really their only noteworthy titles they’ve released this entire generation.
It’s a pretty paltry output, and that’s why many people did not feel compelled to buy an Xbox
MS needed to have compelling titles every year since launch and they woefully underperformed on that front, with Phil needing to run an apology tour multiple times after missteps along the way
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Little Chicken
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- Xbox sucks, why would anybody want an Xbox!
- I can't wait to play all these Xbox games on my PlayStation! In fact, here's a list of more Xbox games I want to buy!!!
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yall are some funny dudes. LOL!
Woopah
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I only ever see it with first parties. If someone is talking about the Square Enix lineup people don't draw a distinction between what is in-house or not.