Lunarorbit
Gold Member
No. No they don't. It's just 2 big ips-forza and indy.
The Verge: PS5 owners really want to play Xbox games, as Microsoft tops Sony’s preorder charts
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RetroGamingUK
Member
Indeed
Halo MCC and Gears Collection will also see success, after that it’s going to be tricker.
The likes of Doom: Dark Ages will sell well too, but that was coming anyway.
Gameplay Gods Bless
Member
We already went through this on PC. PC had Horizon Zero Dawn and Spiderman. After that it was crickets.
Lunarorbit
Gold Member
I'm really not trying to be a console warrior but I got a series S and gamepass 2 years ago and I was very whelmed. Halo is great, gears is fun, but I played vampire survivors the most out of all the games they had to offer.
laynelane
Member
I suspect we're going to see more of this narrative. Xbox hardware failed because of PS - whether it be Sony itself being "anti-consumer" and bullying poor MS out of the market or PS customers stubbornly refusing to buy Xbox consoles. The irony is that there is toxic brand loyalty at play here. It's what led to the acceptance and cheering of anything MS/Phil did over the years, no matter how mistaken it was. And, as your post shows, it's showing no signs of slowing down in some people.
XXL
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GHG
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RetroGamingUK
Member
Hector Hall
Neo Member
It's sad and strange. I rooted for the Dreamcast so hard, was so sad when they announced production was discontinued.
Yet, last thing I would have done was get all triumphant and overjoyed because Ecco or Crazy Taxi were selling well on the PS2, Shenmue 2 on the Xbox or Skies of Arcadia on the Cube. Hey guys, our platform holder, battered and bruised, discontinued it's hardware, and starts working for the rivals, but look he works quite good there, we have won!!. It's so pathetic..
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
"No games"
Pre-order confirmed!
Pre-order confirmed!
GHG
Gold Member
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Tom Warren in 2020 "Xbox Series S CPU is more powerful than PS5"
Tom Warren in 2020 "PS5 players want to play Xbox games"
This man knows how to come up with click bait tweets and articles.
Tom Warren in 2020 "PS5 players want to play Xbox games"
This man knows how to come up with click bait tweets and articles.
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Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
It is though is it not? People bang on and on about xbox having no exclusives the only exclusive title on the PS5 by Sony studios is Astrobot.
And by the exact point GT7 is a PS4 title isn’t it? How are you breaking down which sales are on PS4 compared to PS5.
Forza a 4 year old game will outstrip Sonys only PS5 ‘console’ exclusive.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Zacfoldor
Member
It's really intentional obtuseness getting 2 things mixed up.
We said Xbox had no games.
For years they didn't. Remember when the last Crackdown came out? That was a highlight for them during their nothing years.
Phil spent years building the current roster of devs and now it is finally starting to pay off. Problem is Phil's boss got tired of waiting and demanded all games be ported to all profitable devices. Now that the games are finally coming out they are coming out on Playstation too.
So when you mock us for saying you had no games, you are mocking us for a truth we told in the past. However, as you well know, times have changed. Now you have some games but they are not exclusive games to your console so even though you got what you wished for(games) they did not help in the console war at all. In fact, Sony gets 30% of each game sold on Playstation. That is because while we were waiting for the games, Microsoft gave up exclusivity as a competitive advantage in order to generate revenue from the IP they bought. They could not buy all this IP and then make it exclusive to only Xbox gamers. It would tank the IP and cost them their investment and also leave revenue on the table. The exclusivity model only works on a console where the users buy a lot of games all the time. Gamepass broke that model on Xbox because of course it did. When you give something away for a seemingly low price, it affects the value of the product in people's minds. It is very hard to convince people to pay 70 dollars for something they have gotten for a dollar a month in the past. The only way to really generate revenue with gamepass now is going to be mtx. The problem with that is MS is very much at the whims of regulation relying exclusively on mtx and so they need as many revenue streams as possible to diversify that risk, and so you will see them get the games out to more people when they can.
We said Xbox had no games.
For years they didn't. Remember when the last Crackdown came out? That was a highlight for them during their nothing years.
Phil spent years building the current roster of devs and now it is finally starting to pay off. Problem is Phil's boss got tired of waiting and demanded all games be ported to all profitable devices. Now that the games are finally coming out they are coming out on Playstation too.
So when you mock us for saying you had no games, you are mocking us for a truth we told in the past. However, as you well know, times have changed. Now you have some games but they are not exclusive games to your console so even though you got what you wished for(games) they did not help in the console war at all. In fact, Sony gets 30% of each game sold on Playstation. That is because while we were waiting for the games, Microsoft gave up exclusivity as a competitive advantage in order to generate revenue from the IP they bought. They could not buy all this IP and then make it exclusive to only Xbox gamers. It would tank the IP and cost them their investment and also leave revenue on the table. The exclusivity model only works on a console where the users buy a lot of games all the time. Gamepass broke that model on Xbox because of course it did. When you give something away for a seemingly low price, it affects the value of the product in people's minds. It is very hard to convince people to pay 70 dollars for something they have gotten for a dollar a month in the past. The only way to really generate revenue with gamepass now is going to be mtx. The problem with that is MS is very much at the whims of regulation relying exclusively on mtx and so they need as many revenue streams as possible to diversify that risk, and so you will see them get the games out to more people when they can.
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And what exactly does this kind of toxic brand loyalty achieve? :
HAHUAHUAAHU
I didn't even have that photo anymore...
It's Xcapim, an Xbox Milgrau associate who made the racist tweet and ended up being canceled by Xbox itself
For those who don't remember:
DON'T SEARCH FOR THE "XBOX MIL GRAU" TWITTER. It has spoilers of Last of Us 2.
Translation:
"The content of the Mil Grau account does not reflect our fundamental values of respect, diversity and inclusion. We already demand the immediate removal of our brand from your channels, through social media companies."
Also, one example of racists comments from them:
The guys says in portuguese:
- A cultura negra é essa? Então é bem bosta
- É... tem que voltar pra senzala
With free translation:
- this is the black culture? It's shitty
- yeah... they needs to go back to slavery
There's a lot of more bad stuff from them, and they're reported a lot. Xbox Brasil and US got to know and they're ban from Xbox stuff.
REMEMBER TO NOT SEARCH THIS PROFILE ON TWITTER if you don't want spoilers of LoU2
Another example:
free translation: "cry me a river?"
Xbox cut ties with Brazilian Youtuber "Mil Grau" for racist comments
DON'T SEARCH FOR THE "XBOX MIL GRAU" TWITTER. It has spoilers of Last of Us 2. Translation: "The content of the Mil Grau account does not reflect our fundamental values of respect, diversity and inclusion. We already demand the immediate removal of our brand from your channels, through social...
The only real exclusivity of Xbox is having the most lunatic fanboys in the gaming world, so lunatic that Xbox itself canceled them and forced them to remove "xbox" from Xbox Milgrau
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Little Chicken
Have you already bought the Xbox SX's proprietary SSD, the "supreme hardware", for you? After the Xbox is finished, are you going to stick it in?
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It's just an Astroturfing story for MS Shareholders... for Nadella to show that he "won"
I find it shocking that this story is clearly fabricated to sell "success" to MS shareholders, to sell Xbox games on PlayStation as a victory, which clearly signals the end of Xbox hardware and for these crazy Xbox fans who still consider this a victory for Xbox.
A victory for the third party model that doesn't manufacture hardware.
This news is a victory for PlayStation, Sony and the consumers of its console.
For Sony, it is the consolidation of its competitor as a third party.
For PlayStation, it is the strengthening of its ecosystem with games from more producers and the revenue of 30% of all Microsoft games sold on the PlayStation.
For the PlayStation consumer, it is the increase in the supply of games.
But is this somehow a victory for Xbox? For Microsoft?
20 years trying to have its walled garden and failing, but somehow this became a victory for the lunatics?
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Hope Xbox games on PlayStation the best, enjoy them.
mayham2199
Member
Well their sales are below Xbox one and something tells me all those Xbox one users wont be upgrading to the latest
any Sony would love that. Sony is hoping it sells as much as possible and is the next cod. That’s the whole point of the console.
Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
Unknown Soldier
Member
Is your dignity worth only that?
Unfortunately my dignity is worth much more than that
Everyone has a price, I guess some people are available for a really low price. I'm not one to judge though, even console warriors gotta eat
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Little Chicken
Gold Member
FalsettoVibe
Member
All this... for me?...
Somehow I expected a response like this after someone called out the ridiculousness of your previous post.
BlackTron
Member
The joke is supposed to be that he's so stupid he's lovable, but Chris Farley did it better.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
BlackTron
Member
Your Aikido gaslight attempt has not worked.
Now go make me a sandwich. With yourself.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
You continue to prove my point. Meanwhile if I was sucking Yoshida's dick you'd be tenderly helping to rock my head back and forth. The double standards are wild.
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BlackTron
Member
No, that would be equally or more weird to soaking praise from all the X virgins.
Wait how do double standards work again?
Edit: Frankly sir, I often give you the benefit of the doubt that you're trying to be as outrageous as possible on purpose just to be funny. But your contention of what I'd be doing "if I was sucking Yoshida's dick" implies a different story, that these posts represent real opinions, presented as over the top sarcasm and jokes, so if anyone says anything, you can just just hide behind how silly you were being "iT wAs JuSt a JoKe DoNt GeT tOxIc". This is just cowardly and instigating gaslight behavior. You should feel bad.
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REDRZA MWS
Member
But….. but…… Xbox has no games? Can’t wait for PlayStation fans to experience Gears E day, and UE 5 Halo !! And with full crossplay between Xbox, ps, and PC those games communities will be live wire!
mayham2199
Member
I'm honestly not sure if Halo can even compete in this environment anymore. People will come for the nostalgia but I'm not sure they will stick around instead of just going back to their fortnite, COD, Rivals, Apex, etc.
reinking
Gold Member
RetroGamingUK
Member
Hopefully the devs have sorted their shit out and turned those franchises around by then.
Synastry
Member
I normally don't call anyone out but you truly are a toxic user if I ever seen one in a forum maybe you should take a look in the mirror if you wanna see what double standards really looks like.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Hum...the article, made by an Xbox chill is talking about pre-orders...so we're discussing that lol.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I hate articles like this. Best sellers charts tell you nothing, especially with this context. These are imminent games coming out in a practically empty month, and other than ER Nightreign, Doom and Death Stranding 2 coming out 1-2 months later, there's nothing else major that has a release date and up for pre-order.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Merely liking Xbox now toxic 
In any case, good for PS5 owners for receiving FH5
In any case, good for PS5 owners for receiving FH5
reinking
Gold Member
Merely liking Xbox now toxic
In any case, good for PS5 owners for receiving FH5
No. Not it at all. However, the trolling character you created is.
JusticeForAll
Gold Member
Why would somebody not want to play a good game on the platform they own?
diffusionx
Gold Member
Well, let's be real here, Forza Horizon 5 came out in 2020. So these two big games were four years apart. So, I'm not sure MS is beating the "no games" rap just yet.
The fact is that the entire Game Pass strategy is flawed. Phil tried to set up this pipeline of constant games to keep people constantly subbed and engaged. basically what Netflix or Hulu try to do. But you can't do it with games and especially not the way MS manages these studios. There's too much variance and the costs are too high and people have different tastes (a lot of people dont care what they throw on Netflix, which is why its full of horrible slop,but people want to spend 10+ hours with a great game and just because you like Indy doesnt mean you like Avowed, even if both games are considered "good").
There is absolutely no way MS could exist as a publisher and maker of videogames without moving into 3rd party, the Xbox doesnt sell enough and has not ssold enough for a long time.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Nice cope from Tom Warren.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
The Xbox community is what ruined Xbox. Current Xbox leadership spent all their capital placating console warriors like Colt Eastwood, Gaz, Jez and they lost (if they ever had) any objectivity. It was just blind devotion to the brand and fellating Phil Spencer every chance they got.
They never truly focused on making better games and managing their studios AND the aforementioned console warriors never called them out for it. The Xbox community never demanded better from Xbox and THAT is why we are were we are.
Xbox has NOBODY to blame but themselves for their demise.
And yes, Indiana Jones is a GREAT game and I am glad PS owners are buying it.
FrankWza
Member
It's at the point where people are pretending that these games weren't already being developed for PlayStation. They couldn't even make it half a generation withholding games. Their failure to make CoD exclusive ruined any shot
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reinking
Gold Member
I said a long time ago that Xbox has become an echo chamber and they needed to get outside of the influencers they use for marketing.
CuteFaceJay
Member
"XBOX ON!"
GHG
Gold Member
Donald mac Ronald
Member
The best thing about all of this is reading these types of posts.
The subtle narrative change from Phil's memos.
laynelane
Member
I give a lot of the blame to MS, actually. It was the Xbox reveal that really showed their standard mindset infecting Xbox. That was also one of the few times Xbox fans really put their foot down. Ever since Phil showed up as the face of Xbox, there's been that weird back and forth with him and influencers (and with other Xbox figures but to a lesser degree). However, to me, Phil "the gamer who's just like you" was a very manufactured image and also very calculated. Unfortunately, a lot of people bought it and as for placating people - I see a lot of manipulation mixed into that. An example is the way they've handled going third-party - 'oh, it's just these few games and it's case by case'. That was the beginning, said to placate their fans, but the intention all along was to release way more than that.
It's all part of their standard strategy - brand evangelism. It just didn't work in this case and neither did their other tactics like FUD. If they had spent more time focusing on what matters as opposed to social media metrics and injecting MS into the gaming space (games as a sub service is another example) then we'd still have a viable third competitor in the console space, imo.